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Why did nurse at Kate Middleton’s hospital kill herself?
Washington Post ^ | 12/09/2012 | Delia Lloyd

Posted on 12/09/2012 6:55:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

LONDON — It’s the million-dollar question, and not only here in the U.K. Jacintha Saldana — one of the nurses taken in by the prank phone call to the hospital where Catherine, duchess of Cambridge, was being treated for acute morning sickness — killed herself early Friday. And we are all left scratching our heads. Why did she do it?

Of course, the first thing we all wonder is about her mental stability. We’d all desperately like to believe that this hard-working mother of two, who commuted 140 miles to her day job, often working double shifts so that she could spend more time with her family — must have some deep, dark secret to hide. Because then the rest of us could at least explain away an event that is, as the chairman of King Edward VII Hospital put it, “tragic beyond words.”

But from what we know, there is no sign that Saldana was suicidal, unstable or psychologically frail before she took her own life this week. Shy and nervous? Yes. But so depressed she was suicidal? Doesn’t sound right, at least according to those who knew Saldana, who was described at work as “an excellent nurse, well-respected and popular with all of her colleagues.”

Maybe she faced some kind of severe sanction from the hospital where she worked? Maybe the hospital blamed her for falling for a hoax in which two Australian DJs masquerading as Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles managed to fool the diligent but non-native English speaker, who subsequently passed the phone call on to the Duchess’s private nurse, who then revealed details about the duchess’s condition?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: katemiddleton; nurse; royal; suicide
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1 posted on 12/09/2012 6:56:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It really doesn’t make a lot of sense that she would have killed herself over such a silly mistake.


2 posted on 12/09/2012 6:59:25 AM PST by jocon307
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To: SeekAndFind
fool the diligent but non-native English speaker

Almost an implication that a worker should have a command of the native language before being put in a position of responsibility and authority. If she can't answer the phone, should she be handing out meds written in a language she can't speak very well and possibly can't read either? What about following doctor orders?

3 posted on 12/09/2012 7:00:10 AM PST by Bernard (Clinton Era Tax Rates, Clinton Era Spending Levels)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, the Washington Compost is wondering why and how something happened! Maybe there’s hope for a little story on Benghazi someday! /sarc.


4 posted on 12/09/2012 7:00:10 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Above praying for all departed souls, should we delve into each and every suicide occuring every day and night in the world, or only those connected in a roundabout way with the Royal Family?

Leni

5 posted on 12/09/2012 7:06:55 AM PST by MinuteGal (Please Restore Former Format on FR "Latest Posts" Page ASAP !)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have unfortunately known a few people that committed suicide. No one saw it coming. They rarely do. Sadly this poor women’s family will now be the subject if an idiotic press “inquiry”


6 posted on 12/09/2012 7:07:51 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Bernard

“according to those who knew Saldana, who was described at work as “an excellent nurse, well-respected and popular with all of her colleagues.”


7 posted on 12/09/2012 7:15:22 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Personally, I do rather blame those DJs. I’m sick of people pranking others. I hope they feel sick about this for the rest of their lives, and lay off this adolescent behavior.


8 posted on 12/09/2012 7:16:50 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nor do I think it’s fair to blame the two Australian DJs, though many people do.

I don't think they intended any harm, but that's just the thing about practical jokes. They're funny until someone takes one the wrong way.

9 posted on 12/09/2012 7:19:42 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Agreed. That “prank” turned out to be really, really stupid. No excuse for that kind of behavior.


10 posted on 12/09/2012 7:20:11 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nor do I think it’s fair to blame the two Australian DJs, though many people do

No, madam, because everyone should view the world in the same way you do.
11 posted on 12/09/2012 7:22:15 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sad she died. But that’s about it. As far as anything about the “royal” family is concerned...I could care less.


12 posted on 12/09/2012 7:25:12 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: SeekAndFind

I haven’t seen it reported how she died. Pills, hanging, what? Adjusting my tin foil hat, but how did they know immediately it was suicide? The grey suits helped send Di over the edge so did she get a visit by the palace guard that isn’t being told? Besides, she wasn’t the one who gave out Kate’s medical information. She answered the initial call and transferred it to the ward nurse who spoke the most with the djs. Or perhaps it had nothing to do with the incident. Despite the amount of coverage it’s getting, there are very few facts about the incident.


13 posted on 12/09/2012 7:26:16 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I have always believed and taught my children that deriving joy at the expense of another is sinful. Too many people think nothing of how their actions may affect others..selfish, uncaring and without compassion. Usually they find that what goes around comes around.


14 posted on 12/09/2012 7:36:23 AM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: Dallas59

How much less could you care? I believe the adage is “I couldn’t care less”, meaning you don’t give a rats a$$....


15 posted on 12/09/2012 7:45:16 AM PST by Gertie
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To: coloradomomba
Sigh...I guess because of the extreme sensativity of others we are now going to have to outlaw extremely mild practical jokes. Not my world...
16 posted on 12/09/2012 7:46:41 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: coloradomomba

One of my husband’s favorite lines at our house: It’s not fun unless it’s fun for EVERYBODY!!


17 posted on 12/09/2012 7:50:01 AM PST by rejoicing
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To: SeekAndFind

This was supposedly a “practical joke”. Practical jokes are never funny as far as I am concerned.

To make things worse for this poor woman, she was still learning English and British culture. And therefore; in no way, could she have distinguished one British accent from another British accent. As an American, I could not have either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practical_joke

“A practical joke is a mischievous trick or joke played on someone, typically causing the victim to experience embarrassment, indignity, or discomfort.”

And yes, these 2 jerks need to be punished. Jail sounds good.


18 posted on 12/09/2012 7:57:26 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d imagine crossing the elites is not fun.


19 posted on 12/09/2012 7:59:59 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: coloradomomba
I have always believed and taught my children that deriving joy at the expense of another is sinful.

I make an exception for Obama voters.

20 posted on 12/09/2012 8:00:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: miss marmelstein
I guess because of the extreme sensativity of others we are now going to have to outlaw extremely mild practical jokes.

Could be, could be.

There was a story about Clintonista George Stephanopoulos. In college, his buddies had his number. Steffi phones in a pizza order for a boys-night-in, and one of them sneaks off, calls the joint, and changes the order.

When the pizzas' delivered and paid for, Steffi goes nuts for 1.) not getting what he "ordered", and 2.) for getting grief from his homies for not being able to place a simple pizza order.

Some people are just more tightly wound than others. Obviously, Stephanopoulos got over his inability to function in a disjoint reality, working for Dems, Clinton, and the LSM.

21 posted on 12/09/2012 8:01:51 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Gertie

We don’t care because there are so many tragic deaths in this world we don’t need to focus in on this one in particular. What makes this newsworthy? It’s only fodder for speculation or conspiracy theories. I dont’ even find any sense of irony here. It’s just a parody of life remotely interesting to some and thus marketed as news because of it’s pecular timing.

I think she killed herself because she had to drive 140 miles for work each shift.


22 posted on 12/09/2012 8:02:30 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: SeekAndFind

A Brit I was once working with told me that for most Brit’s the most unwanted emotion was embarrassment. So I think it’s very possible that this drove this woman to suicide.


23 posted on 12/09/2012 8:03:01 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Cicero
Agreed. That “prank” turned out to be really, really stupid. No excuse for that kind of behavior.

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What? In retrospect?

Just who do these royals think they are that they can get that kind of response from the public? They were born with a silver spoon and the rest of the world has to drop down and worship. And failing to do that kill themselves?

Please.

24 posted on 12/09/2012 8:04:19 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Alan Funt would never make it today.


25 posted on 12/09/2012 8:04:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: miss marmelstein

what may seem funny to you may not be funny to others. I am NOT for any form of censorship, I just wish people would think about how their actions could affect others. I do not believe that is too much to ask of anyone. This was done in an effort to receive notoriety, did they not consider for ONE moment about the person who would end up being the butt of their mild practical joke?


26 posted on 12/09/2012 8:12:05 AM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: dfwgator

Alan Funt? Is he the guy that looks like Robert Knovak?


27 posted on 12/09/2012 8:12:34 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: SeekAndFind

For a woman >> You don’t kill yourself when you have two children that seem perfectly good and normal. She had them to live for if nothing else. So very selfish of her but she was probably very deprressed (for whatever reason) previous to the prank phone call

I mean....Even Prince Charles joked about it yesterday. Blaming the Australian pranksters is wrong but the nanny staters and feminazis are out in full force on this one.


28 posted on 12/09/2012 8:22:05 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: SeekAndFind

The hospital management should have been more diligent-—perhaps issuing a detailed memo-—advising staff of its policies WRT the admittance of royals.

No one could have forseen the nasty prank-—but staff could have been on high alert WRT the privacy Kate should have received.

I believe US hospitals—— without royal patients——rarely give out info over the phone-—even to a patient’s relatives.


29 posted on 12/09/2012 8:25:53 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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To: dennisw

Actions have consequences, they should be held accountable. How bout that little girl who commited suicide because of facebook taunts, WHERE has civility gone?


30 posted on 12/09/2012 8:25:56 AM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Pranks are a guy thing....of course humorless women want calm and order and perfect decorum. This prank was a hoot. Too bad about the suicide and I’m sure the DJs would take it all back if they could.

I guess I blame the humorless nurse for depriving her family of a wife and mother


31 posted on 12/09/2012 8:29:32 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
To make things worse for this poor woman, she was still learning English and British culture. And therefore; in no way, could she have distinguished one British accent from another British accent. As an American, I could not have either

That's because you are American. Educated Middle class Indians have a better understanding of British culture than Americans.

Besides, she had been living and working in England for 12 years.

32 posted on 12/09/2012 8:29:41 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (By doubting we come to inquiry, and through inquiry we perceive truth. -; Peter Abelard)
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To: coloradomomba
How bout that little girl who commited suicide because of facebook taunts, WHERE has civility gone?

That was an extended affair of bullying that I would punish myself. A one time telephone prank is 180 degrees different

33 posted on 12/09/2012 8:31:37 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the Brits are covering up what happened to her at the hospital after the hoax & deflecting the blame onto the Aussie radio radio station & the disc jockeys. Yes, they started it, but I think the hospital, British media & British gov’t run healthcare system are what pushed her over the edge.


34 posted on 12/09/2012 8:36:51 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

“Yes, they started it, but I think the hospital, British media & British gov’t run healthcare system are what pushed her over the edge.”

It was too overwhelming after the stern lecture on the vagueries of the Brit Equivalent of HIPA violations. Healthcare fixes BLAME...not PROBLEMS


35 posted on 12/09/2012 8:46:18 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: jocon307

“... killed herself over such a silly mistake”.

Something odd happened to me a few weeks ago that keeps popping into mind over this incident. I was food shopping and there was a woman in the store. Her purse fell, the contents spilled all over the floor and she just burst into tears. Hard, relentless tears and sobs. I walked over to her and started picking up the items and shoving them back into her purse. I kept saying, “It’s okay... we’ll get everything into your purse. Don’t worry”. I was confused at her severe reaction to such a simple nuisance. She told me finally she was sorry but her husband was just put into Hospice and reality finally hit her that her life was about to change. My point with this story is the dropping of the purse and the reaction didn’t have much to do with each other. I have the feeling that the British woman had more issues going on in her personal life and perhaps this crank call incident was the final straw that pushed her over the edge (that she may have been teetering on). IMHO.


36 posted on 12/09/2012 8:46:43 AM PST by momtothree
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To: bgill

Found unconscious at the nurse’s residence.

DJ’s huh? Must have been the same 2 DJs who spoke with Princess Di before her drive through the tunnel. /s


37 posted on 12/09/2012 8:53:51 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Liz

In the US if you give out information to someone who is not allowed to have it it is a violation of federal law (HIPA). At my former hospital anyone looking at an electronic chart of a patient that you are not taking care of you are terminated. In fact when a RN is involved you can actually lose your license to practice nursing. While this is no reason why I would off myself, I have to believe that in Socialist England she was days away from losing her job. Considering that, and then being the Nurse who made the mistake concerning the Royal family, her prospects were not good in gaining another job. Imagine being a nurse in America and you are taking care of Michelle Obama and you give out private information concerning her over the radio. You would be in violation of Federal law, lose your job and possibly your career and be known as the Nurse who revealed her info over the radio. Again I would not off myself, but my career would be toast. This is not just a practical joke. Just another perspective from a retired RN. Thanks.


38 posted on 12/09/2012 8:57:17 AM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

My own opinion of practical jokers is that they should be hung by their toes, and by ‘toes’, I mean balls.

I worked in a union plant long ago. They were the worst people on earth for this sort of thing. One thing I did learn, though, is that massive and disproportionate retaliation works. Israel, take note.

I didn’t know who the guilty parties were, although I had suspicions. But after I was through, the practical jokes stopped, and stayed stopped.

Give war a chance.


39 posted on 12/09/2012 8:57:47 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: dennisw

Yeah, that’s true. Pranks are a guy thing and women don’t have much sense of humor sometimes. Here’s one you might get a kick out of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ4RjpzTElM


40 posted on 12/09/2012 8:58:05 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: dennisw
This prank was a hoot.

I don't think so.

So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith, Am not I in sport? --Proverbs 26:19

41 posted on 12/09/2012 9:01:48 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

For my part,I absolutely DESPISE “practical jokers” because their intent is to cause at least emotional harm to others by making the victim of the “joke” appear stupid;this is not a good act. Sometimes the practical joke results in much worse.I maintain that Christians and others of good moral character should not and do not engage in such disguised attacks on innocent people.

My view is those who derive amusement from any misfortune of innocent people or anuimals are sick.


42 posted on 12/09/2012 9:12:07 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: jocon307

In the US, she could get fired for violating HIPAA laws, be blacklisted, face an investigation and have her license suspended or taken away, be unemployable, lose her legal immigration status...

Maybe none of that was relevant in her circumstances - maybe she was only devastated to have messed up after being trusted with the care of the princess carrying the heir to the throne.


43 posted on 12/09/2012 9:17:34 AM PST by heartwood
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To: hoosierham; chesley

I was cured of the vice at an early age, when I suggested to my mother that a friend and I were contemplating spiking someone’s chocolate with Ex-lax. Her response was immediate and overwhelming, and since she was normally an incredibly mild-mannered woman I was, needless to say, taken aback. I know there will always be individual louts amongst us, but the fact that an organization should use the practical joke as a money-making tool should give us due cause, as a society, for concern.


44 posted on 12/09/2012 9:29:08 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Bernard

Her native language wasnt English, then doesnt mean she didnt have a better.command of proper vocabulary and grammar than most of the yubs who would otherwise populate those positions. It did however make her gullible to the prank.


45 posted on 12/09/2012 9:31:22 AM PST by kenavi (Lost the country? Win your state.)
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To: Bernard

Her native language wasnt English, then doesnt mean she didnt have a better.command of proper vocabulary and grammar than most of the yubs who would otherwise populate those positions. It did however make her gullible to the prank.


46 posted on 12/09/2012 9:31:41 AM PST by kenavi (Lost the country? Win your state.)
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To: coloradomomba
Actually, I didn’t think the joke was particularly funny. The imitations of the Royal Family were atrocious.

I just don’t think people should kill themselves over a minor incident like this.

There have been some freepers who would probably have wished that Allen Funt of “Candid Camera” should have been jailed.

47 posted on 12/09/2012 9:55:30 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: momtothree

As always, mom, you are right on the money.


48 posted on 12/09/2012 9:58:49 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe she faced some kind of severe sanction from the hospital where she worked?

I wonder about that, the hospital was so quick to say that they had "supported her". It seemed a little off.

49 posted on 12/09/2012 10:01:48 AM PST by Fido969
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To: dfwgator

Ha! I just wrote the same thing!

Here’s a truly cruel practical joke that could have caused a heart attack. The late, great comedian and comedy writer, Pat McCormick, had a replica made up of his tiny newborn. Sitting on a balcony with his wife, he said he couldn’t stand the baby anymore. He grabbed the replica and heaved it overboard.

Needless to say, that precipated divorce proceedings.

There are practical jokes and then there are practical jokes—


50 posted on 12/09/2012 10:01:48 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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