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Smoking Pot and Tying the Knot
Townhall.com ^ | December 12, 2012 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 12/12/2012 7:35:21 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Jim Robinson

‘I think the turn-arounds seem fast because to most Americans, these two issues aren’t that important’

Why didn’t you include the entire sentence?

I’m a little taken aback, that you took that part out of my statement to use as somehow thinking I am defending anything, whether it’s pot or gay marriage. That is certainly not what I meant or even how bramps understood it in #33.


61 posted on 12/12/2012 10:04:21 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: sport

I guess I should have said it’s not important to those people that I actually know. My bad, Sorry.

Is this what Jim is upset about, because I said Americans instead of those Americans that I know and talk with?


62 posted on 12/12/2012 10:08:23 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The article discusses homosexual marriage, libertarians fully embrace the homosexual agenda.

Adoption, “marriage”, the military, everything.


63 posted on 12/12/2012 10:12:21 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: stuartcr

Could be.


64 posted on 12/12/2012 10:21:21 AM PST by sport
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To: xzins

Now that thar is FUNNY, xzins!


65 posted on 12/12/2012 10:23:26 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Jim Robinson
 

If your personal observations include defending the homosexual agenda (or any other liberal/socialist/Marxist cause), then you may find your welcome here running out, just as many other atheists and liberaltarians have.

Now, we're getting somewhere. Jim, I'm sure you've noticed my tagline over the years. I've taken tons of grief over it from libs who argue for legalized dope. Yet, we see silence from these same liberals when it comes to other libertarian agendas like pro-abortion and pro-gay marriages. Why is that?

lolol

I think we all know the answer is that these clowns would be zotted in a heartbeat if they progress from pro-dope to pro-abortions.

Yet the Libertarian agenda is advancing. Even here at FR. I'm sure you saw that Glenn Beck thread from yesterday where Beck endorsed gay marriages. And how many FReepers approved Beck's message? It was sickening to see that. Here at Free Republic.

I wish to God you would take a stand and zot the pro-dope libertarians here at FR. But you (to date) have not. Just understand that these libs are cagey. They get away with their pro-dope agenda, but remain quiet (for now) on their pro-abortion and pro-gay marraige issues because they know they will get the zot.

 

66 posted on 12/12/2012 10:38:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kaslin

Islamists want polygamy.

It will be sold as civil rights and religious freedom.

And the enslavement of women will have been completed.


67 posted on 12/12/2012 10:44:10 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: mbarker12474

I don’t know where you are but No Smoking in Restaurant has been around for years, and frankly having to look at filthy ashtrays with filthy cigarettes while you are trying to eat is more then I can stomach


68 posted on 12/12/2012 10:45:04 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: ansel12
Substance bans are social engineering - it was Progressives who pushed for alcohol Prohibition - and just as that social engineering failed, the social engineering of current drug bans is failing in all the same ways.

The article discusses homosexual marriage,

And also discusses marijuana prohibition - it's even in the title.

libertarians fully embrace the homosexual agenda.

And who embraces the social engineering that is marijuana prohibition?

69 posted on 12/12/2012 10:53:24 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: bramps

And it’s a far cry from alcohol. You can have a drink or two and still think rationally. Once you are stoned, even a little bit stoned, your mindset completely changes. And not for the better.

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Why is it that some folks see alcohol use as a spectrum (drink a little, minimal impact - drink a lot, major impact) but think pot is like a light switch, on or off, and once on, you were all in?

Bramps, when you smoked pot, did you never notice that if you took just a hit or two off the joint the impact was considerably less than if you burned the big fatty all by yourself?


70 posted on 12/12/2012 11:01:18 AM PST by dmz
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
The article discusses homosexual marriage, libertarians fully embrace the homosexual agenda.

Adoption, “marriage”, the military, everything.

Gay Marriage EMBRACED BY LIBERTARIANS, THE ENTIRE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, PART OF THE LIBERTARIAN AGENDA OF SOCIAL ENGINEERING.

71 posted on 12/12/2012 11:02:22 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12
Why didn't you answer my simple question: Who embraces the social engineering that is marijuana prohibition?
72 posted on 12/12/2012 11:08:00 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Well, if nothing else common sense. There is no poppy and coca plants being grown in this country that could deliver the demand. The occasional MJ grow you find on private property and national forests also is logistically incapable of delivering the amount of product used. Also, the precursor chemical regulations basically dried up the old style meth labs and the ephedrine labs you see at homes and hotels also cannot deliver in bulk.

That is where the increase in government in the form of customs and border patrol in lieu of Dept of Education, EPA, and DOE mutts is acceptable. IMO. They would be focused outward instead of looking inward at us.


73 posted on 12/12/2012 11:10:16 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: mbarker12474

Here in Washington state smoking in bars and restaurants was banned about five years ago. I think they are starting to ban it in apartment houses and parks. I don’t smoke so do not follow that closely.

But we did legalize pot. Of course, that is also banned in bars and restaurants and parks. Do not know about apartment buildings.


74 posted on 12/12/2012 11:21:04 AM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

LOL, I’m not here to answer your questions and feed your single minded obsession.

I’m against the radical leftist social engineering of the libertarians, and their embracing of the homosexual agenda.


75 posted on 12/12/2012 11:21:12 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12

You raise excellent points. I add a big ol’ dittoes to what you post.

It’s just your posting to that nannies person is cracking me up.

He is a one note wonder. With a one track mind. The only reason he posts anything is to push legal dope. And you are better off talking to a brick wall than to argue with him on other critical issues. Hell, even arguing with him about any down-side to dangerous drugs? Waste of time. He is for legalizing all that crap regardless of the damage and harm it does.


76 posted on 12/12/2012 11:22:18 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
The occasional MJ grow you find on private property and national forests also is logistically incapable of delivering the amount of product used.

As I pointed out to you a few days ago:

'"Domestically grown cannabis accounted for 10 percent of all marijuana consumed in 1980, and increased to about 25 percent in 1992, despite the efforts of the Program. The potency of cultivated marijuana has also increased significantly as a result of modern agricultural methods and techniques." - http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/DEA/a9520.htm

'The American entrepreneurial spirit can easily replace any reduction in imported supply.'

Since drugs can be hidden in legal imported goods, how do you propose we close the border to that traffic without bringing all importation to a grinding halt?

That is where the increase in government in the form of customs and border patrol in lieu of Dept of Education, EPA, and DOE mutts is acceptable. IMO.

So you think just shifting those resources will let us examine a significant fraction of all imported items?

77 posted on 12/12/2012 11:32:34 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: ansel12
Why didn't you answer my simple question: Who embraces the social engineering that is marijuana prohibition?

I’m not here to answer your questions

Got it, coward.

I’m against the radical leftist social engineering of the libertarians

But you're OK with the radical social engineering of the prohibitionists. Got it, hypocrite.

78 posted on 12/12/2012 11:37:33 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

25% is not 100% that is not enough. Spotting large commercial type MJ grows from the air is an easy task. No way the entrepreneurial spirit can provide that amount without large outdoor grows. Large greenhouses that utilize massive energy and generate heat are also easily detected.

Yes, it is a start. If it slows down Chinese made crap so what? Little Johnny will have to wait a few more days for his iPod of gangsta rap. If it increases our efficiency on curbing that imported product(s) sure and a side effect is better screening for trojan horse weapons by infiltrators.


79 posted on 12/12/2012 11:42:41 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Responsibility2nd
The only reason he posts anything is to push legal dope. And you are better off talking to a brick wall than to argue with him on other critical issues. Hell, even arguing with him about any down-side to dangerous drugs? Waste of time.

You should have the minimal decency to ping me when repeating your already-rebutted lies about me.

To repeat:

My position on the down-side to dangerous drugs:

"My recommendation to others is to use none of these harmful substances, just as I myself use none of them." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2956184/posts?page=85#85)

Some of my other subjects of interest:

post #37: "Vanity--Spin off of Another Thread--What Is Your Fav Christmas Music?" (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2964512/posts?page=37#37)

post #29: "Poll: Should the US defend Israel..." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2964263/posts?page=29#29)

post #28: "Hope Solo’s fiance arrested before wedding" (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2959442/posts?page=28#28)

post #27: "Washington Bishops Seek Stronger Catechesis After Same-sex Marriage Vote" (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2957486/posts?page=27#27)

80 posted on 12/12/2012 11:44:22 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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