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San Francisco Millionaires Join Scores of Rich People to Demand Higher Taxes on Wealthy
SF Weekly ^ | Wed., Dec. 12 2012 | Albert Samaha

Posted on 12/14/2012 11:50:33 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

The tax increases coming down will impact the middle class the hardest as they always do. The super rich can and will avoid them by.....

Investing in tax exempt municipal bonds andbond funds.

Setting up tax exempt foundations which they control.

Setting up trust funds for their heirs.

Investing in tax deferred retirement accounts.

Investing in real estate tax shelters.

Investing overseas.

Plus many other things all perfectly legal. It will be the middle class which will bear the huge brunt of the expiration of the GWB tax rates not to mention all of the many new taxes contained in Obamacare.


21 posted on 12/14/2012 12:47:52 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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more than 200 rich people nationwide to demand that Congress raise their taxes

Taxes on the "rich", on businessmen and capitalists, are overwhelmingly borne by the wage earners in the form of a lower demand for labor and a lower productivity of labor, which latter is caused by a lower demand for capital goods relative to consumers' goods and reduced incentives to improve production. The truth is that wage earners always end up bearing the major burden of taxes. They bear the burden whether the taxes are levied on them directly or on the rich.

22 posted on 12/14/2012 1:26:00 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: RexBeach
Heh, if a bunch of rich liberals want to be punished who am I to stand in their way? I am fine letting the ultra rich get soaked. Since most of them didn't lift a finger to try to advance conservative causes or run a candidate to stop Obama, to hell with them. (with the exception of the Koch brothers who at least tried, even though they backed the wrong horse). Why isn't it always us, the struggling working middle class carrying water for the rich, who don't do a damn thing to defend the constitution?
23 posted on 12/14/2012 1:27:04 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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“retired Google software engineer Frank Jernigan; Google engineer Fritz Schneider”

Yeah you guys made your mega millions off of Google which was sheltering income in Bermuda. Maybe if your employer paid its fair share of taxes in the past you would not be a millionaire today. Take your sanctimony and shove it.

Google’s tax avoidance is called ‘capitalism’, says chairman Eric Schmidt
Google chairman Eric Schmidt has insisted that he is “very proud” of the company’s tax structure, and said that measures to lower its payments were just “capitalism”.

Mr Schmidt’s comments risk inflaming the row over the amount of tax multinationals pay, after it emerged that Google funnelled $9.8 billion of revenues from international subsidiaries into Bermuda last year in order to halve its tax bill.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 1:30:11 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: nickcarraway

I suspect this is fabrication.


25 posted on 12/14/2012 1:38:18 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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San Francisco M Zillionaires Join Scores of Rich People to Demand Higher Taxes on Wealthy their Upstart Competition.

There, fixed it.

26 posted on 12/14/2012 1:48:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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I think the old saying is charity begins at home. These folks should get their State and City in the black before they talk about raising federal taxes.


27 posted on 12/14/2012 1:53:43 PM PST by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: nickcarraway
A three word sentence (eg. clown biden) WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION.

That is all this about.
28 posted on 12/14/2012 2:25:56 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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They don't want higher taxes on the wealthy. They want higher taxes on high-earners. The two are not necessarily the same.

Now, France has a wealth tax; not just an income tax. A true tax on wealth would have these people joining the Tea Party.

In the meantime, laissez les bon temps rouler!

29 posted on 12/14/2012 4:52:27 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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Few if any of the Leftist a-holes who are yelling for higher tax rates would ever pay more taxes than they have to - they are just calling for higher taxes on others, not themselves.


30 posted on 12/14/2012 7:27:07 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Eight years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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These retards should just send in all of their wealth first, as an example.


31 posted on 12/14/2012 9:19:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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Give them what they ask for and be generous.

Obama is proposing raising taxes on the rich from 34% to 39%... make them feel like they are real GIVING Americans and kick that tax hike up to 50%. Then they can ALL send "thank you" cards to Obama.

32 posted on 12/15/2012 12:46:20 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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They are already rich and have trusts to protect their money from excessive taxation.
The only reason I can tell that they would say Tax the Rich is because they're gloating.

Even Obama said "rich like myself" in his pressers. It's gloating.

Rush said something many moons ago that stuck in my head,
"They don't want anybody else to become richer than they are after they get theirs".

33 posted on 12/15/2012 1:04:46 AM PST by MaxMax
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Higher income taxes protect the entrenched wealthy interests that have market share in their respective fields. You name the industry it doesn’t matter. Internet. Textiles. Automotive supplies. Food Services. Household goods. Recorded Entertainment. Retail. All of these sectors already have mega-sized corporations that have massive market share. They were able to grow their companies because they could reinvest profits. And today the small guy has a hard time gaining market share.

By raising income taxes, the smaller companies will have a harder time competing, investing, growing. Do you think Levi Strauss will be hurt by high income taxes? No. But Widget Jean Company will be, because Widget Jeans is a small business trying to grow. The more Widget pays in taxes the harder it will be for it to compete with the big company. Levi already owns a lot of fabricating machines, warehouses, trucks, inventory etc. They can operate at breakeven and do just fine. Widget Jeans can’t operate at breakeven, not if it wants to grow. It needs profits year after year to invest in property, equipment, and other capital costs.

And that is one reason why these hotshots don’t mind advocating for higher taxes. They are already wealthy! You could tax their income at 100% it won’t matter because they are already super rich, they don’t need income. And besides they don’t depend on regular wage income to survive and thrive. They live on the assets they have already accumulated, they live on their savings and dividends and returns on investments which are taxed at a much lower rate, so they don’t care if their competitors get hurt by changing the code that benefited them. They aren’t the ones “giving back”. They are just advocating for others to give, which just so happens to protect themselves from competitors.

Now if they said “raise the capital gains rate to that of regular income” it would be another matter but they aren’t saying that. They are saying that those who work hard now should pay more to help protect their businesses from up and coming competition.


34 posted on 12/18/2012 7:28:40 PM PST by monkeyshine
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