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Obama promises 'meaningful action' after Newtown school shooting (Obama's Reichstag Fire?)
Guardian UK ^

Posted on 12/14/2012 3:47:30 PM PST by Arthurio

Barack Obama wiped away tears at the White House as he expressed grief over the children killed in the Connecticut massacre and promised "meaningful action" to prevent similar shooting rampages in the future.

Obama has promised to act on gun control after earlier shooting incidents but subsequently done nothing implement any changes. Over the last four years of his presidency, restrictions on guns – in particular concealed weapons – have become more relaxed and gun sales soared.

There have been five major shooting sprees since he has been president, three of them this year. This one is different because the majority of the victims in the school in Newtown are young children, but the most recent opinion polls have shown overwhelming opposition to gun restrictions.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; democrats; guncontrol; gunfreezone; murderisacrime; newtown; obama; sandyhookobama; sandyhookpolitics; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment; shooting; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: ctdonath2

Thanks, just wondering about that other story.

151 posted on 12/14/2012 6:47:21 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: goldstategop

Right. Got a problem? Write another law. Or in Obamagabe’s world give an empty speech and go golfing.

152 posted on 12/14/2012 6:49:20 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: wastoute
153 posted on 12/14/2012 6:53:46 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Gun laws sure work don’t they.

The government says they do, so we just got have more.

And this Republic seems bound and determined to go along with what the government wants.

154 posted on 12/14/2012 6:59:55 PM PST by oyez (Hell must be a Gun Free Zone.)
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To: MestaMachine


155 posted on 12/14/2012 7:01:17 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Mich Patriot
Defy, defy, defy...never give an inch. Time to be a rock, not a tumbleweed.

You're right, sorry.

156 posted on 12/14/2012 7:05:59 PM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: Arthurio

ban guns but let iran have nukes

157 posted on 12/14/2012 7:08:56 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: manc
is he going to mention the failed social policies of the left then?

How parents don’;t spend time with their kids, don;t raise their kids and prep them for the real world?

Yep. You are right. Overall, the idea is that from a month after birth, the kid is left in the hands of a daycare center or/and a public school so that Mom can advance her career and Dad can benefit from the extra money coming in.

After leaving the tender, bendable mind in the hands of teachers required to follow the socialistic, soul-deadening humanistic valued syllabus, what do you expect. When they reach their legally "mature" age, can they be trusted with any life-threatening device?

158 posted on 12/14/2012 7:11:41 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: Travis McGee
159 posted on 12/14/2012 7:16:58 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Arthurio

I think a convincing case could be made that violent video games play a big role in these shootings. Semi autos have been around for over 100 years before these mass shootings started. Why have these started in the last 20 years? The difference is the appearance of ultra violent first person shooter videogames that desensitize people to killing. The military even uses these as training tool to get soldiers accustomed to shooting people. You have generation of young people who grew up with these games and shooting realistic looking game characters may their inhibitions to shooting real people.
The left is going to push hard to blame this on guns. I think videogames offer a more convincing explanation that we can use as a strong counter-argument..

160 posted on 12/14/2012 7:22:35 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: SkyDancer

That is a fake quote, Hitler never said that and gun registration was already in place when the Nazis took power. He did ban Jews from owning guns or working in an industry that would give them access to gun, but the quote is bogus. He did use the existing gun laws to keep guns away from his opponents and did pass certain enhancements to the gun control laws already enacted.

161 posted on 12/14/2012 7:30:24 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: cherry

I get it. The are hundreds of millions of guns in the hands of American citizens. Imagine the administrative nightmare for just the people who comply by surrendering.

Then oops!, those of use who lost our guns out on the lake, or the gun was stolden!

Yeah, I get it, do you?! I have no intention of becoming compliant!

162 posted on 12/14/2012 7:43:04 PM PST by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: virgil

“Do we even have mental health facilities anymore where the mentally ill can be placed?”

Interesting that you mention this.

Only about a mile and a half from the elementary school in Sandy Hook is the now-closed Connecticut State Psychiatric hospital.

Years ago, if someone was having mental problems, they’d get sent off “to Newtown”. I had an aunt that spent a little time there (she came out of it).

Just empty buildings now, fenced off...

163 posted on 12/14/2012 8:25:27 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Arthurio
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164 posted on 12/14/2012 8:38:25 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: DallasSun

Oh come one. He’s going to get an Oscar nomination for worst performance in a crying scene. It was so fake it was embarrassing.

165 posted on 12/14/2012 8:53:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Road Glide

We can thank Rosalynn Carter for the boarded up Mental Hospitals. She took up the cause of the mentally ill, deemed mental institutions to be inhumane and worked for a massive shift from institutional based care to community based care. We don’t have more mentally ill people today. It’s just that they are now free to run around loose in our neighborhoods.

166 posted on 12/14/2012 8:55:46 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: South40
I agree, I saw the invisible tears on my big screen HD TV. You can't hide anything anymore. There were NO TEARS. The wiping right at the eye was to catch the invisible fake tears before they could run down his cheek, which of course since there were no REAL tears they couldn't run down his cheek.

Also, he wiped his eyes way too many times.

Also, when he finally was able to compose himself (sarc), he raised his head and there was no evidence of tears in his eyes.

I saw no compassion, no sadness, only ANGER. Satan has no soul, that's why Obama can't cry.

Like others have said.... fake tears from our fake president.

One more thing. The news media went hook, line, and sinker for the fake emotion and tears. What FOOLS.

167 posted on 12/14/2012 8:59:20 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: 444Flyer

Good follow up psychological counseling is an excellent idea. Both the surviving small children, the surviving adults who witnessed this and the grieving families whose children are gone, need HELP NOW.

There was a lady on with Meghan today on Fox News whose daughter was murdered at the Columbine school. She said it takes YEARS to ever recover, if you can, from losing your child this way. She struck me as a thoroughly kind and sympathetic woman, who would know how to help those parents who are facing this awful reality.

I hope she or someone like her with their understanding heart, can offer assistance to these grieving families.

168 posted on 12/14/2012 10:05:26 PM PST by bunches (Irish people enjoy whimsical humor)
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To: Salamander

All of my ‘guns’ were stolen right before I was born. I clearly remember being so excited planning for my first shooting lesson. Imagine my profound disappointment when I got here and found out my ‘guns’ didn’t. Doc didn’t even have to slap me. I was already crying.

169 posted on 12/14/2012 10:38:03 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

You notice mass murders like gun free zones.

170 posted on 12/14/2012 10:51:54 PM PST by Eaglefixer
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To: faucetman
Exactly. The laws of psychics prove he did not shed a tear. His head was tilted forward as he read, meaning gravity would have pulled any "real" tears from the tear ducts next to the nose straight down the face toward the mouth. There is no possible way any "real" tears would have run toward the outside of his eyes unless he had been lying on his side which he was not.

It disgusts me how the leftist media, Fox included, ate it up.

He has no compassion for the deaths of these children because he has taught himself not to. That's probably the only way he could live with himself given his very open support of every type of the wholesale slaughter of children.

171 posted on 12/14/2012 10:52:19 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
You think playing video games will desensitize a person enough to shoot his mother in the face, in real life, then take the time to drive to a school and shoot 26 people, mostly children, dead?

Just think about that for a second. Video games on a TV with a game controller compared to the real life head of a loved one blown off. If you took a teenager out back and blasted the family dog with a shotgun, they'd be horrified, let alone a guy shooting his own mother in the face to start.

There is a real, tangible gut wrenching emotion that a normal person feels when exposed to real life trauma.The sound of the gun, the smell, the blood and brains and the look of a person's blank dead eyes that can't be imitated by some zombie video game, if the guy even played them, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence I've heard so far.

Only a socio/psychopath can do something like this; a person who would torture animals as a child and worse because he has no ability to empathize with anyone or anything. I think it'll probably come out that the guy tortured animals but was not able to be dealt with for a variety of reasons. I predict this tragedy will turn out to be a failure of the juvenile justice/mental health care system above anything that relates to gun control.

But, nonetheless, a socio/psychopath like this can't be cured anyway. We can only hope they eliminate themselves before doing something like this.

172 posted on 12/14/2012 10:56:04 PM PST by Squeako (The radicals are the wolves. The moderates are the wolves in sheep's clothing.)
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To: Squeako

I have to agree. If someone thinks that after shooting his mother in the face it was video games that drove the shooter to then go to an elementary school and pull the trigger again and again, they should take a look at the images of the Beslan tragedy. No video game looks like that. (The faint of heart or queesy should not view the Beslan images and certainly no children.)

173 posted on 12/14/2012 11:04:00 PM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: imardmd1


Mom today has been told to put the kids in day care, and she is tired when she comes home.
Kids do not get raised as they should today, the left wanted the traditional destruction of the fmaily and this is what they are now reaping

174 posted on 12/15/2012 6:53:57 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Well maybe some original thinking like mental health reforms would be in order.

That would be more than acceptable.

Realistically, we need to bring back the asylums we have been closing for years with the liberal shrinks telling us that the mentally ill that are running around the streets wouldn't harm a fly.

That's why the last several mass shootings have all been done by mentally ill people. Because the experts are correct in saying they wouldn't harm a fly. They just massacre humans.

175 posted on 12/15/2012 5:02:49 PM PST by superloser
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To: Kenny

Wasn’t trying to be a jerk...just don’t want the enemy to sense weakness. We need you in the fight, and every other conservative. Remember too that even some libtards have guns and don’t want to give them up. Obama is in for a huge fight here, and probably can’t win.

176 posted on 12/15/2012 5:50:10 PM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: manc

Agreed. Out of your reply, I glean that too many parents have abandoned their children to the (leftist) “education” system, either by misplaced trust or ignorance (that schools had become *far* different than when they were there- or indoctrinated, themselves) or selfishness & apathy.

I saw an excellent, excellent post on another forum yesterday. Basically, they said that children (with their impressionable minds) were bombarded by the schools with how horrible their race, religion, & culture is; that it is destructive & evil- & always has been. ( I would add completely messing with their minds regarding gender identity & destroying any sense of natural order/ roles, too)
Kids sense of identity & self esteem have been/ are being *completely destroyed” by the schools. This is probably intentional; to make them easier to “reconstruct” by the state, if that sort of stuff is to be believed.
They are bombarded with violence & perversion/ inversion outside of school & with their parents passivity (for whatever reason), they’re just screwed.

I am terrified by the lack of- not just adequate, but *any* response from the right, to what the “progressives” are doing. They ripped off the mask some time ago & aren’t holding anything back yet here we sit, wringing our hands & moaning, but *doing* nothing.

We should- each of us that physically can, be printing flyers & posters with *the facts* (e.g. how many abortions are *promoted* by the left; even to the point of leaving viable *infants* to die, yet this is an “outrage” that the people that *their* schools/ social premises have destroyed go crazy & kill, en masse) We should be *actively* publicizing their destructiveness & their manipulative hypocrisy.
And we should be physically gathering at our state houses & US representatives’ offices to insist that they do the right thing- in *every* case.

One tenth of the posters at places like FR would make a huge difference. By sitting on our behinds, typing our complaints on a keyboard- we are fiddling while the left burns America to the ground. There’s a lot more we could be doing. The communists *are* doing it. I hate saying it, but we are like those passive parents.

177 posted on 12/16/2012 10:37:17 AM PST by KGeorge (- Proud member of "Nazis" for Newt /Sarcasm)
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To: KGeorge

ps. Four of the most recent mass murderers have been disenfranchised White males in their early twenties. The young Korean (I think. Anyway, Asian) man, Mr Cho, who shot up Virginia Tech was also in that age range. Why? What happened to them that caused them to go crazy?

178 posted on 12/16/2012 11:03:50 AM PST by KGeorge (- Proud member of "Nazis" for Newt /Sarcasm)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No. It wasn’t. You saw what you wanted to see.

179 posted on 12/17/2012 12:34:35 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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