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To: Ezekiel

http://www.dailypaul.com/255148/obama-wants-to-arrest-your-weapons

The guns can be arrested- so I wonder how long it is until the gun makers are also held responsible?

There was a case somewhere, last week, where the wife called in about her husband making a threat of some kind- and they came in and took all of his weapons and ammo.

Just like that.

There is probably something under “Obamacare” that makes guns people.

Who knows? Back door dealings, and Huge bills passed without reading them.


159 posted on 12/19/2012 4:54:28 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Truth2012
There was a case somewhere, last week, where the wife called in about her husband making a threat of some kind- and they came in and took all of his weapons and ammo.

Hillary did that -- the Violence Against Women Act (unconstitutional on its face, since it makes law for Paul that it doesn't make for Paula) provides for instantaneous, procedureless and rightless felonization of a citizen. A magistrate swings a gavel to grant a Temporary Restraining Order, and bang! The subject of the TRO is a felon, if he owns a firearm.

That's what his dragon of an ex-wife did to Dr. Emerson, the Amarillo dentist, whose case fell off the radar after it was returned by SCOTUS for a "do-over and this time find him guilty" to the U.S. District Court for northern Texas after the judge had resoundingly found Emerson innocent and the VAWA unconstitutional, and then the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans held up their opinion for two years waiting on election results before convicting him on appeal (basically). That was such a roust .... and SCOTUS did it, let all of us recent admirers of Heller remember.

Footnote: Slick and Beastwoman had selected Dr. Emerson's case, to establish precedential case law for VAWA. It was to be the VAWA's equivalent of FDR's picking on a cripple in U.S. vs. Miller (1939), in which FDR sicced his solicitor general on a defense brief that had no advocate, in a case in which one of the defendants was dead and the other a penniless prison inmate, lawyerless save for the resigned author of the brief.

That's apparently why Fifth Circuit temporized so outrageously ... one did not wish to cross the coldly vindictive Beastwoman, y'know.

160 posted on 12/19/2012 5:48:46 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Truth2012
From your link:

The practice of arresting property was initiated by George H.W. Bush's US Attorney General, Richard Thornberg. The practice was perfected on Bill Clinton's watch by Attorney General Janet Reno who created a separate department to handle asset forfeitures. .....

Under normal circumstances a person must be convicted of a crime, or at least charged with a crime, before law enforcement (with an order from a lawful court) can seize their property—particularly weapons since once they are convicted of a felony, they may no longer legally own any firearms. Under Executive Order 13603, law enforcement has the authority to seize legal firearms owned by any person who is merely suspected of substance abuse—even if that individual is never taken into custody or charged with substance [abuse].



Trust Barky to sign a new E.O. directing ATF to pick up all weapons everywhere on a list of "suspect" weapons -- a weapons dragnet conducted under admiralty law and seized under an asset forfeiture "class action" run past a roundheeled magistrate.

161 posted on 12/19/2012 6:05:03 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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