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Congressmen: Obama 'Reckless' to Arm Egypt with F-16 Fighter Jets
breitbart.com ^ | 12/29/12 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 12/29/2012 1:13:30 PM PST by ColdOne

On Thursday Congressman Ted Poe (R-TX) criticized the Obama administration for sending twenty F-16 fighter jets to the new Muslim Brotherhood-dominated Egyptian government.

"It is reckless and unwise for the U.S. to give F-16s to Egypt and its new president/dictator, controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood," Poe explained. "This extremist group is notoriously anti-American and anti-Israel. The United States should not be arming a country ruled by a group that has the destruction of Israel in its charter."

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1 posted on 12/29/2012 1:13:38 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne
None dare call it what it really is.....TREASON!
2 posted on 12/29/2012 1:21:32 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ColdOne

This regime actively arms the Muslim brotherhood and mexican drug cartels while trying to disarm the American public. Telling.


3 posted on 12/29/2012 1:26:57 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ColdOne

I’m sure this approval sailed through without a hitch. Birds of a feather.


4 posted on 12/29/2012 1:30:12 PM PST by catbertz
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To: ConservaTexan

Dittos


5 posted on 12/29/2012 1:37:28 PM PST by MrKatykelly
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To: ColdOne
Image and video hosting by TinyPicImage and video hosting by TinyPic Pretty well sums up my feelings.
6 posted on 12/29/2012 1:40:55 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: ColdOne

What a waste of good airplanes. The IDF will just shoot them down without breaking a sweat.


7 posted on 12/29/2012 1:44:53 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

You beat me to it. Having the hardware and being able to use it to the limits of its design are 2 different things.

If regular EAF pilots are flying them, they will seek asylum and land. If MBs are flying them they will be nothing but targets.

Wanna guess what the ROEs will be for IAF fighters and missile batteries when these planes are spotted approaching Israeli airspace or ships in the Med?


8 posted on 12/29/2012 1:50:18 PM PST by wrench
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To: MtnMan101

impeachment is pitifully inadequate


9 posted on 12/29/2012 1:51:45 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: ColdOne

I think they bought them with money we gave them. How slick is that?


10 posted on 12/29/2012 1:55:34 PM PST by KingLudd
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To: ColdOne
Lemme get this right...

Hussein thinks Americans shouldn't have .22 rifles, but Muslim dictator governments can have the world's most capable fighter aircraft.

Got it.

If you didn't know where you stood before, you would be nuts not to know now

11 posted on 12/29/2012 1:56:19 PM PST by Regulator
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To: ColdOne

Egypt just adopted a Shari law constitution and it’s president has vowed to destroy Israel.

Why are we arming this anti-American, terrorists nation?

Thanks, Democrats.


12 posted on 12/29/2012 2:02:02 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: garjog; All
Why are we arming this anti-American, terrorists nation?

First, understand I am not kidding and I am not wrong.

Obama is a Muslim traitor who is doing everything he can to destroy America.

From Fiscal Cliff talks to arming rebels in Libya and Syria, Obama is working for the Muslim terrorists, not for Americans.

Benghazi was about Obama giving weapons to Libyan rebels. Who are they?

Rebels = Al Qaeda

Syrian rebels = Al Qaeda

Egyptian Aid = Muslim Brotherhood who are nothing but Muslim Terrorists.

Would it be wrong to call Obama a Muslim Terrorist? Actually, it would be an understatement of who this SOB really is. Arab Spring was nothing but Obama overthrowing governments to replace them with Muslim terrorists. Obama removed American troops from Iraq not for the good of America but simply to allow terrorists attacks to increase to allow the government to be overthrown.

Obama shares the Muslim dreams of a world under Sharia law.

13 posted on 12/29/2012 2:21:55 PM PST by politicianslie (Most Americans can't even recognize massive election fraud. Our first Muslim President laughs at you)
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To: garjog; All
Why are we arming this anti-American, terrorists nation?

First, understand I am not kidding and I am not wrong.

Obama is a Muslim traitor who is doing everything he can to destroy America.

From Fiscal Cliff talks to arming rebels in Libya and Syria, Obama is working for the Muslim terrorists, not for Americans.

Benghazi was about Obama giving weapons to Libyan rebels. Who are they?

Rebels = Al Qaeda

Syrian rebels = Al Qaeda

Egyptian Aid = Muslim Brotherhood who are nothing but Muslim Terrorists.

Would it be wrong to call Obama a Muslim Terrorist? Actually, it would be an understatement of who this SOB really is. Arab Spring was nothing but Obama overthrowing governments to replace them with Muslim terrorists. Obama removed American troops from Iraq not for the good of America but simply to allow terrorists attacks to increase to allow the government to be overthrown.

Obama shares the Muslim dreams of a world under Sharia law.

14 posted on 12/29/2012 2:21:55 PM PST by politicianslie (Most Americans can't even recognize massive election fraud. Our first Muslim President laughs at you)
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To: ColdOne

F-16 + Egypt = Jobs + $$$$ for those who influenced the sale. Just follow the $$$ forget the politics.


15 posted on 12/29/2012 2:37:44 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: ColdOne

I looked into this a little and asked a super tech in military about F-10’s....he told F-10’s are crappy planes. When I said they were new....he said they wouldn’t have our latest technology. He didn’t think it was a big deal-—and he’s no fan of Obama.


16 posted on 12/29/2012 2:39:43 PM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: ConservaTexan

Another Congressman who doesn’t understand Obama.

Obama is a Muslim and his aim is to destroy the United States as it is today.

He said it, why don’t people believe him.


17 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:11 PM PST by Venturer
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To: ColdOne

I hate Obama just as much as anyone, but honestly all of our leaders have been either selling or giving away our technology for decades.

I don’t understand for the life of me why any country would give away the technology it spent billions to develop so that it could be the unmatched military power in the world. Thus forcing it to spend even more to stay ahead. One advancement in military technology can keep a country on top for a 1,000 years if the secret is kept to itself. History is full of examples.


18 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:11 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: ConservaTexan

This regime actively arms the Muslim brotherhood and mexican drug cartels while trying to disarm the American public. Telling.

He wants our guns, then our money, and finally our carcasses.


19 posted on 12/29/2012 2:44:36 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: MrB
The Israelis won't have to shoot them down.From what I hear the f-16 is a high maintence aircraft.From what my brother told me when he was a helicopter flight instructor for the Army, muslims do not believe in performing maintence on aircraft. They say that it is beneath their dignty, it iswork for infidels. He said that you could not get one to do a preflight check on aaircraft. He hated to have them in his class.

just let the muslims fly them for a while and they will start falling out of the air from lack of maintence.

20 posted on 12/29/2012 2:49:44 PM PST by sport
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To: KingLudd

It is FMF funding. . .Foreign Military Funding.

This is money we have in the fed bank in Denver and this money never leaves the US. They NEVER TOUCH IT.

The country (Egypt) puts in a request for some kit and then the US Government runs the source-selection and program. The requesting country, like Egypt, never touches the money and never picks the provider. That is all done by the US government.

We do this for Access, Influence and Infrastructure reasons.

Access, sending the stuff ensures we have physical access because we have to set it up and maintain it (they simply can’t do it no matter how much we train them). This also ensures we have access to political and military leadership—we must have access to leadership to maintain the program and monitor how it is being used. (And we can stop maintenance to ensure the kit is never used effectively).

Influence, this is a direct result of our access. We influence the country by teaching them the American way, the American way of the military operating under the political leadership and not to be a force of its own. Look at the way Egypt reacted when the riots began and the elections were held. Setting aside the MB winning, we saw the military sitting it out, not mowing down the people. . .and this is because we have been educating their officer corps for decades in our professional military schools, to try and bring the concept of military serving the people and not a person (president).

Infrastructure, we simply don’t have enough domestic buying of military kit to keep the factory door open and the R&D current. We sell to foreigners to ensure we keep the industrial capability to manufacture our gear rather than having to shudder the factories and then relying on France or the Russians to provide our weapons and platforms.

AND let’s not forget arms sales need congressional approval. For all transfers over 25M then congress has a role to play in approving or disproving the sale.


21 posted on 12/29/2012 3:03:17 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Boxsford

Your friend is right. . .there is something called “FMS Security Deletions.”

By the way, “F-10?”


22 posted on 12/29/2012 3:05:57 PM PST by Hulka
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To: politicianslie

“Obama shares the Muslim dreams of a world under Sharia law.”

I despise Obama as much as anyone here, but I think it would be better to say that he is an anti-traditional American who sympathizes with Muslim terrorists in that they both hate American and want to reduce it’s power.

Obama sees arming and supporting Sharia loving Muslims as a way to “re-distrubute” world power away from the United States, which he views disparagingly.

I would not go so far to say that he is literally a Muslim. He is an atheist like his communist buddies.

Check out my Blog: The Obama Clarifier. http://obamaclarifier.blogspot.com/


23 posted on 12/29/2012 4:17:40 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: MrB

I agree. These F-16s will become easy targets for IDF Pilots.


24 posted on 12/29/2012 4:25:18 PM PST by BobNative
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To: catbertz

“I’m sure this approval sailed through without a hitch. Birds of a feather.”

Approval, what approval??? This sick POS doesn’t need approval for anything he does!!!


25 posted on 12/29/2012 4:57:12 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: ColdOne

Comrade obama personally spoke to each one of those F16s and they all swore an oath that none would hurt any one of his friends.


26 posted on 12/29/2012 5:35:00 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: ColdOne

As soon as these touch down on Egyptian soil, Israel destroy them all lol.


27 posted on 12/29/2012 5:59:20 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: lwoodham

As soon as these touch down on Egyptian soil, Israel should destroy them all lol.


28 posted on 12/29/2012 6:00:34 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: ColdOne
I would imagine this sale was started before the regime change.

A responsible administration would have delayed or cancelled the delivery but not hussein.

I just keep telling everyone, 'We are at war and the president of The United States, is on the wrong side."

29 posted on 12/29/2012 6:07:57 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: jivin gene
Approval, what approval??? This sick POS doesn’t need approval for anything he does!!!
Someone suggested it, and he approved it. I doubt he's the idea man, with regard to any subject, short of "Let's get ice cream!"
30 posted on 12/29/2012 7:42:16 PM PST by catbertz
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To: MrB
What a waste of good airplanes. The IDF will just shoot them down without breaking a sweat.

That is the most likely scenario, but we do have a long-standing habit of training a lot of Arabs to fly our platforms. Might be an occassional Ace among them to cause Israel some grief.

31 posted on 12/30/2012 4:16:44 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Hulka

Oops....his expertise is the A-10. Got my planes mixed up. Clearly I am no expert but I knew who to ask.


32 posted on 12/30/2012 7:17:20 AM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: Boxsford

Understood.

The A-10 is a real man’s jet, last of the cowboy flying. . .single-seat, BIG gun, lots of loiter time to do real damage.

Truly the “Fist of Gawd” when strafing.

Superb jet.

Should be around until 2030, with avionics and weapons upgrades along the way.


33 posted on 12/30/2012 8:02:39 AM PST by Hulka
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To: trebb

“Might be an occassional Ace among them to cause Israel some grief.”

Maybe, but I doubt it.

It is a cultural thing. We know that you are only as good as you train. However, the arabs don’t agree. Their belief in inshallah (butt-wipe muslim moon gawd willing), no matter how hard you train or not train, if allah wills you will win, you win. . .and if you lose, you lose. You have no control over your destiny. Therefore, why bother training to be the best, just trust allah.


34 posted on 12/30/2012 8:08:45 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Awesome description. My husband is super tech on A10’s. He would agree with your opinion.

Problem with A10 is the mold is gone...company that made it folded...To keep them going takes a lot of work. It’s best they can do. I asked why not get a company to produce new ones but was told it was not cost effective.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 8:40:03 AM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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