[Hoodat]

he desperately wants to go over the cliff to feed off the drama, anger and watch Republicans beg and grovel.

Correction: He desperately wants to redefine the cliff to feed off the drama, anger, etc. The only fiscal cliff on the scenario is the one we reach today when government can no longer borrow money. Yet you haven't heard Obama utter one word about that. The ONLY way for the GOP to pull off a win here is to refuse to increase the debt ceiling. Give Obama everything else he wants, as long as you take away his ability to buy the next election by printing up more money.

[Cheerio]

Give Obama everything else he wants, as long as you take away his ability to buy the next election by printing up more money.

The GOP can certainly try and stop Zero from borrowing more money on his credit card. IMHO he will do it anyway - the RATS, including Bubba Klintoon, have already told him he has authority.

And the biggest kicker of all is that his financial buddy Bernake will just keep printing more money. The GOP cannot stop the devaluation, or utter collapse, of the USA dollar.

It is time for the GOP to find their gonads or be forever be relagated to minority status.

[plain talk]

I agree. The pubs have little leverage here. I acknowledge that and do not think they can bring Obama to his knees and actually win. However they can muck up the works. they should stop fighting conventional wars using conventional weapons and begin guerilla warfare with unexpected tactics and act as if they have absolutely nothing to lose.

[plain talk]

I agree. The pubs have little leverage here. I acknowledge that and do not think they can bring Obama to his knees and actually win. However they can muck up the works. they should stop fighting conventional wars using conventional weapons and begin guerilla warfare with unexpected tactics and act as if they have absolutely nothing to lose.