Posted on 01/06/2013 8:26:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Never really cared to shop at Hobby Lobby, but looks like I’ll have to go back and see if I can find anything there I like to help support this company.
ABOUT HOBBY LOBBY:
Type: Private
Industry: Retail
Founded: August 1972
Headquarters: Oklahoma City, OK
Key people:
David Green (CEO)
Jon Cargill (CFO)
Revenue: US$ 2.28 billion (2011)
Employees: 21,000
Website HobbyLobby.com
For those who don’t know:
Hobby Lobby is a privately held retail chain of arts and crafts stores based in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA, and is formally called Hobby Lobby Creative Centers.
The company was founded by David Green on August 3, 1972, and as of August 2012 the chain has 514 stores in 41 states. Hobby Lobby headquarters are located in a 3,400,000-square-foot (320,000 m2) manufacturing, distribution and office complex.
Affiliated companies
Mardel - a Christian bookstore chain
Hemispheres - a home furnishings company
Crafts Etc! - a craft wholesaler and online retailer
H.L. Construction - which handles the construction and renovation of Hobby Lobby stores
Ethnographic Media - formerly Bearing Fruit Communications - an advertising agency
Hong Kong Connections - Chinese sourcing and buying office
In September 2012, Hobby Lobby sued the United States over new regulations requiring health insurance provided by employers to cover emergency contraceptives, stating that, “The Green family’s religious beliefs forbid them from participating in, providing access to, paying for, training others to engage in, or otherwise supporting abortion-causing drugs and devices.”
However, their appeal was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court, and as of 31 December 2012, the company faces fines of up to $1.3 million per day for violating provisions of the Affordable Health Care Act (AKA OBAMACARE !!)
Dang it, I wish they’d start selling something besides the stuff they already sell. I’ve bought something from them several times in the last month, but they really don’t have a lot of stuff my wife or I need.
Wish they’d throw in a couple of rows of appliances or something like that.
I’m ready to do some REAL voting with my pocketbook. Plus the more money I can spend there, the less goes someplace else. If we could find enough retailers with the ‘attachments’ to stand up for what they believe in - and reward them handsomely with sales - things might really start changing!
RE: Hobby Lobby CEO open letter: Honoring God is more important than turning a profit
A fine of $1.3 Million a day will quickly bankrupt Hobby Lobby (unless the courts support their freedom to practice their faith <-— FAT CHANCE OF THAT WITH THIS SUPREME COURT).
I suspect that if they have no recourse, they could either:
1) Sell their business.
2) Relocate to another country.
3) Refuse to conform and go to jail for the cause they believe in (making them modern day martyrs).
And just what exactly will happen if they don’t pay he 1.3 million dollar a day fine?
Will Obamas henchmen come to take them away or just have them executed on the spot?
It’s time to stand up against these fu**in tyrants once and for all. If it results in a showdown between them and us, then so be it.
If they want a war then we should give them one. Screw this running crap!
We are seeing the Bill of Rights brazenly being torn up in front of us starting with both the First and Second Amendments.
Executed on the spot. Assets will be transferred to Eric Holder's brother-in-law, and to Van Jones. Welcome to Zimbabwe.
I do not know if Hobby Lobby sells gift cards or not but that might be an option for you and your wife if they do indeed sell them... buy gift cards and give them as gifts.
Could ya use a couple pair of scissors or some needles and thread ? How about some glue or glue guns. Rubber cement ?
I can think of all sorts of things in my local Hobby Lobby that I could purchase that I dont need right at the moment but know I will need them in the future ~ GRIN~
My post was as serious as a heart attack. We’re going to be replacing our refrigerator soon, and honestly, if I could get one someplace for $1200, and Hobbly Lobby was selling them for $1500, I’d buy there.
To save this country we’ve tried darn near everything except concentrated pocketbook firepower. Fortunately my wife and I have lived a modest life and we can afford it. Every time I see a store expressing any kind of Christian idea in their advertising, I save it. If I could make EVERY dollar I spend go only to morally upright companies I would - even if it meant paying more.
The one thing I have noticed is that the people that have the most fundamentally sound and moral ideals, also tend to be the more financially solvent. If ALL of our money could go to the right companies, the others would soon be forced take a side or perish.
“Could ya use a couple pair of scissors or some needles and thread ? How about some glue or glue guns. Rubber cement ?”
That’s the kind of stuff I HAVE bought there in the last month or so. But I spend a lot more than that, and I want it to go only the right kinds of companies.
Example: we’re going to be replacing one of our cars this year Even though I have my preferred brands for technical reasons, if a manufacturer spoke up against zero’s nonsense, the ongoing attempts to make perversion normal, or any of the other secular liberal nonsense - I’d buy from them!
We need to be able to start channeling SERIOUS dollars towards moral companies. On lots of the big ticket items, it’s hard to figure out if there are any moral companies anymore.
My daughter and I went yesterday and she spent about $80. We love that store, event before we knew they were a Christian company.
Went to our local Hobby Lobby yesterday, bought stuff, place was packed!
With Domino’s getting a temporary pass against Obamacare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2973844/posts
I’m hoping Hobby Lobby will be able to ditch it altogether!
Green is fighting the good fight and I’m glad I could support in my own small way.
A new Hobby Lobby store is due to open at
5555 E Broadway Blvd, Suite 131 Tucson AZ, 85711
(520) 512-0242
It will be interesting to see how well it goes over in LibTucson.
2013 New Stores Opening Later This Year
Tucson, AZ : 5555 E Broadway Blvd, Suite 131 : Opening date to be announced later.
Sacramento, CA : 1874 Arden Way : Opening date to be announced later.
Upland, CA : 420 South Mountain Ave : Planned opening day is 02/01/2013.
East Haven , CT : 68 Frontage Road : Opening date to be announced later.
Clermont, FL : 1375 Sandy Grove Avenue : Planned opening day is 02/15/2013.
Holyoke, MA : 50 Holyoke Street : Planned opening day is 02/22/2013.
Duluth, MN : 1734 Mall Drive : Planned opening day is 02/15/2013. : View Map
Morehead City, NC : 5167 Highway 70 W, Suite 90 : Planned opening day is 03/15/2013.
East Wenatchee, WA : 10 Grant Road : Planned opening day is 03/01/2013.
Federal Way, WA : 35020 Enchanted Parkway S : Opening date to be announced later.
Your thoughts are generous indeed, and you’re right that we should be spending money at conservative, Christian-owned companies. But even if you bought a refrigerator there and everyone else on FR did too, and we went back and bought another refrigerator every day, that would not keep Hobby Lobby in business. There’s no way they’d have enough extra money to keep paying $1.3M a day in fines.
As far as I can see, they have a few alternatives:
1. They can cut all their employees back to 29.9 hours per week so they’re excluded from the need to pay for health insurance that meets the standards of the mandate. They would have to hire a lot of additional people to take up the slack, and would be harming many of their full-time employees.
2. They could make all their employees contractors, for whom they have no responsibility to provide health insurance. I’m told this is not legal in a retail environment.
3. They could try to comply by giving their employees vouchers to go out and get their own insurance.
4. They could ignore the fines and let the government sue them, which could take awhile.
5. They could declare bankruptcy and wait to be bought by some company that doesn’t have their moral values.
6. They could just close their doors and put 21000 employees and tens or hundreds of thousands of dependent suppliers out of work.
If there’s another way of avoiding this while remaining in business, I haven’t thought of it, but I’m sure the Green family would be open to suggestions.
Your thoughts are generous indeed, and you’re right that we should be spending money at conservative, Christian-owned companies. But even if you bought a refrigerator there and everyone else on FR did too, and we went back and bought another refrigerator every day, that would not keep Hobby Lobby in business. There’s no way they’d have enough extra money to keep paying $1.3M a day in fines.
As far as I can see, they have a few alternatives:
1. They can cut all their employees back to 29.9 hours per week so they’re excluded from the need to pay for health insurance that meets the standards of the mandate. They would have to hire a lot of additional people to take up the slack, and would be harming many of their full-time employees.
2. They could make all their employees contractors, for whom they have no responsibility to provide health insurance. I’m told this is not legal in a retail environment.
3. They could try to comply by giving their employees vouchers to go out and get their own insurance.
4. They could ignore the fines and let the government sue them, which could take awhile.
5. They could declare bankruptcy and wait to be bought by some company that doesn’t have their moral values.
6. They could just close their doors and put 21000 employees and tens or hundreds of thousands of dependent suppliers out of work.
If there’s another way of avoiding this while remaining in business, I haven’t thought of it, but I’m sure the Green family would be open to suggestions.
Imagine the stupidity of believing that destroying a $2.8 billion company is the right thing to do because otherwise people might have to pay $9 a month for birth control pills.
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