[cripplecreek]

Sadly, too many people have never paid attention to what is happening in the inner city; there are places where nobody would ever vote republican.

In places like Detroit, the fraud is so institutionalized that it doesn't even take an organized effort. The people know how they're expected to vote and the ballot counters know what the outcome has to be. No one has to tell them or encourage them, its just the machine on auto pilot.

[CharlesWayneCT]

It’s not fraud if legal voters cast legal votes, even if they do so because they “know what they are supposed to do”, or they know “what to expect”.

Maybe the conspiracists should charge “voter intimidation” instead of “voter fraud” if their point is that there are black welfare republicans who are intimidated into voting democrat. I don’t think there really are that many black welfare republicans, but all I KNOW is that they aren’t VOTING republican and they aren’t coming out to claim that they DID vote republican and their votes were rejected.

I wish someone would take the philidelphia claim seriously enough that they would run the precinct numbers for the past 12 years, to show how these precinct never vote republican.

Because I’m sure that is what we will find, but the “charge” is so ridiculous that nobody will even bother to do the investigation.

I would do it myself, but sadly, Philidelpha election results are not well-managed electronically. IT’s easy to get lists of votes by precinct for Ohio and Virginia, but I’m having trouble finding anything for Pennsylvania.