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Did New York State Just Accidentally Outlaw ALL Firearms?
NY Times s2230 pdf ^ | January 15, 2013 | NY legisfools

Posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:18 PM PST by kiryandil

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To: kiryandil
No accident. They knew what they were doing.

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

- Ayn Rand, 1957 -

21 posted on 01/15/2013 8:28:59 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: ctdonath2
What most don’t understand about NY gun laws is: normal rifles and shotguns are not “firearms”.

OK, so anyone in New York who owns a firearm (not a rifle or a shotgun) is now a criminal.

22 posted on 01/15/2013 8:29:11 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Progressive jackasses who hate our constitution never do anything by accident..so now every law abiding gun owner in New York are criminals

You're right.

23 posted on 01/15/2013 8:30:13 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: kiryandil

This is an interesting lesson to computer programmers on why it’s good to use parentheses liberally within logical statements to remove ambiguity regarding operator precedence and order of evaluation.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 8:31:44 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Travis McGee; kiryandil

Of interest to you and your bang list.


25 posted on 01/15/2013 8:32:17 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: gop4lyf

This is the only "little book" the left worships.

26 posted on 01/15/2013 8:32:31 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Thorliveshere

The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:06 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Thorliveshere

The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.


28 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:06 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: kiryandil

Various news sources quote officials as saying, “There are some technical deficiencies in the law that was passed but the governor will correct those through a legislative procedure” (paraphrasing but accurate).

No telling how this law will be ‘corrected’. To close loopholes. For the children. (see tagline - cuomo to NYers = SUCK IT!)


29 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:10 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: Thorliveshere

The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.


30 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:10 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Thorliveshere

The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.


31 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:14 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NY, it’s special.


32 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:18 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: tanknetter
There’s an “and” clause there at the end that I think applies to both A and B.

No, the "and" is only operative in (2).

(1) makes you a felon because you POSSESS a firearm.

33 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:18 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Thorliveshere
My condolences, New York. Now, we’ll see a massive exodus of people, I bet.


34 posted on 01/15/2013 8:34:48 PM PST by GraceG
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To: kiryandil
The latest shooting victim.
35 posted on 01/15/2013 8:36:12 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Except that apparently, if you UNLAWFULLY owned a gun prior to the enactment of this law, you are not required to register it.

Only if you take possession after the law is passed, OR you LAWFULLY owned it prior to the law being passed.


36 posted on 01/15/2013 8:37:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hoodat

This section(41) is actually regarding “school grounds” - see page 21.


37 posted on 01/15/2013 8:37:44 PM PST by loulou41
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To: onyx

Eventually this will happen in California too..we are all royally screwed because a bunch of mooching pieces of crap cared more about getting free stuff than give a da,pen about freedom..because of them we all have to suffer now..I wonder if Dems who own guns but voted for the schmuck..are they happy now?


38 posted on 01/15/2013 8:38:42 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GraceG



New York didn't need children for props!
New York just buried the language in a hurry to "do something!"


39 posted on 01/15/2013 8:39:15 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I’m sure they’re thrilled!


40 posted on 01/15/2013 8:40:07 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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