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To: listenhillary

Some interesting tidbits:
1. NY State Constitution does NOT have a 2nd Amendment. There is no state law guaranteeing the freedom to bear arms.
2. Federal law would trump state law, IIRC.
3. Article I, Section 10, Clause 1 of US Constitution says “No state may... pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law,”
4. A bill of attainder NOT punishable by death is caled a bill of pains and penalties. Same prohibition.
5. Bill of attainder: The loss of all civil rights by a person sentenced for a serious crime. In the context of the Constitution, a Bill of Attainder is meant to mean a bill that has a negative effect on a single person or group (for example, a fine or term of imprisonment).
6. SCOTUS extant law is Calder v. Bull (1798) “states are prohibited from bills of attainder.”
7. When do the lawsuits start?


30 posted on 01/20/2013 9:55:39 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt


31 posted on 01/20/2013 10:03:04 AM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: NTHockey

http://www.minutemanrkba.com/why-rkba.html

NEW YORK:

Conditioned its ratification of the new U.S. Constitution on adoption of the following: “That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state.”

The New York Constitution of 1777 contained no Bill of Rights, but its framers insisted that the federal Constitution include such provisions. In addition, the members of the constitutional convention in New York “were obliged to go armed, so as to protect themselves from stray marauding parties ....”.

No reference in the present Constitution.


32 posted on 01/20/2013 10:05:19 AM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: NTHockey

There’s some discussion on the NY page. There is a lawsuit already started. Demonstrations in Buffalo and Albany yesterday.

Problem seems to me that the other side are organized and they flood the inboxes and phone lines. We did too but they must have done us one better. There was even a tiny pro-gun-control protest in my neighborhood yesterday.

Eighteen Republicans voted against this in the State Senate, I believe all from upstate. Upstate is different, but there aren’t enough of them anymore.


33 posted on 01/20/2013 10:07:53 AM PST by firebrand
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