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Paul Ryan Booed at Inauguration
Weekly Standard ^ | 01/21/13

Posted on 01/21/2013 1:46:31 PM PST by MissesBush

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To: livius
Well, he’s a conservative and one of the few who has actually challen

Let's see, Ryan voted for No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part-D, ethanol subsidies.

Yea, principled Conservatives would cast such votes -- Not.

Our Republic is in peril. So called leaders like Ryan have no clue to the reality that must be faced to restore our Republic.

Ryan is at most a Conservative leaning technocrat. Ryan has no true love of Liberty or limited government as part of his DNA.

51 posted on 01/21/2013 3:00:54 PM PST by sand88
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To: Kanzan

Huh?


52 posted on 01/21/2013 3:01:33 PM PST by livius
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To: terycarl
what on earth does being second on a ticket and losing a questionable election have to do with letting down the country?????

Sarah Palin did that too.....but she still seems O.K. to me!!!!!!!

53 posted on 01/21/2013 3:01:54 PM PST by terycarl
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To: SuziQ

I agree. Some Freepers remind me of the wandering Jews in search of some Conservative superman. I believe Ryan is a pragmatist and a class act. Phooey on those booing dems.


54 posted on 01/21/2013 3:02:06 PM PST by SSDecontrol
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Criticism accepted. Let me make amends “Bowl floating, societal refuse requiring a double flush to put them back into the sewer from whence they sprang.” Better?


55 posted on 01/21/2013 3:07:19 PM PST by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: Jim Scott; married21

If we want to know why we lost the last time around, look at the posters here. We have to sort out what’s important and what’s not, what’s the fundamental position of a candidate and what can be changed by popular pressure, but nobody here seems to believe they can change anything or work for anything.

Why should any US candidate for any position care about people who spend their days firing off outraged communications on a closed internet site without ever actually finding a candidate pure enough for them to support or work for? Do they think that gives them some kind of clout in choosing the next candidate?

Hint: it doesn’t.


56 posted on 01/21/2013 3:08:04 PM PST by livius
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To: sand88
Let's see, Ryan voted for No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part-D, ethanol subsidies. Yea, principled Conservatives would cast such votes -- Not. Our Republic is in peril. So called leaders like Ryan have no clue to the reality that must be faced to restore our Republic. Ryan is at most a Conservative leaning technocrat. Ryan has no true love of Liberty or limited government as part of his DNA.

OH PLEASE......PATHETIC

57 posted on 01/21/2013 3:09:08 PM PST by terycarl
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To: sand88

OK, you’re totally pure, but you can still pick the part of his program that you can agree with and support him on that.

Otherwise, get yourself some backers and run as sand88 in the next election. Lots o’ luck.


58 posted on 01/21/2013 3:11:36 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
Ryan is very good and he’s about 100% smarter and more strategic than anybody here,

Thanks for the laugh. It's sad people put elites like Ryan on a pedestal.

Please, tell me how Ryan and other GOP in D.C. have moved our Republic one micro-meter towards Liberty?

We need leaders with a Warrior mentality, ones that will use every tool at their disposal to thwart the evil efforts of the left.

The cold reality is that government is accelerating in it's power and control. Ryan and others never indicate the severity of the problem and how the left is seeking absolute control.

He speaks like a technocrat, more worried about "process" than facing evil.

Ryan is strategic?? That is the most ridiculous thing I heard in a good while. Please tell me just one aspect of Ryan's "brilliant" strategy.

The best from this fool I have seen is cuts 10 years out.

59 posted on 01/21/2013 3:12:41 PM PST by sand88
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To: MissesBush

The Obamabots hate Americans. This is typical of freeloader Obama trash.


60 posted on 01/21/2013 3:14:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: terycarl
OH PLEASE......PATHETIC

:) If pathetic you mean Ryan, I agree. lol.

61 posted on 01/21/2013 3:14:34 PM PST by sand88
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To: Mr. Blond

They booed the entire Bush family last time. Classless people who are lead by BO as their classless president.


62 posted on 01/21/2013 3:16:15 PM PST by JFC
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To: livius
If you don’t support anybody because you’re too pure and can’t find a candidate who meets your criteria...then go back to being a Keyboard Kommando, who accomplishes nothing except venting his spleen.

All very well said and kudos for your courage in saying it. As I've always said, if you want someone to govern or legislate precisely as you would, then you need to run yourself. Short of that, we need to stop crucifying our own people for the occassional straying from what we agree with while ignoring the 97% of the rest of the time we're with them and they're with us. The fact is no one is better on fiscal issues and the need to reform the country's entitlement and tax system than Ryan. But unfortunately the country is too stupid to get his vision and voted for the destructive "what's in it for me" parasite vision of the Obamanation.

The purity brigade doesn't understand that sometimes you have to go into strategic retreat to achieve a greater good. Like it or not, Obama had us over a barrel on the fiscal cliff. And with Obama in near total control of the media the blame never would have gone to anyone other than Republicans for going over it. So what then? We hand Congress back to Obama and Pelosi in 2014 so Obama's last 2 years can be a spasm of left wing legislating to up-end what's left of free market capitalism in this country that will never be undone? At least this way we still have a shot at holding the House and getting the Senate so we can mitigate some of the damage Obama is doing and could do if he were in total control. And in the end, we need this debate about tax hikes and lack of spending control to go from the realm of rhetoric and theory and into the realm of practice. Now Obama's got both. Let the nation WITNESS the results---and Obama will have no excuses left.

What do you bet these same carpers are among the 3 million conservatives who sat home drooling on themselves about how they can't vote for a "Mormon and a RINO" rather than voting on election day and now whine that guys like Ryan can't get them everything they want out of an fanatically ideologically-driven president they basically helped re-elect by ignorantly staying home on election day?

63 posted on 01/21/2013 3:18:10 PM PST by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: livius
get yourself some backers and run as sand88 in the next election. Lots o’ luck.

No thanks, I work very hard to pay abundant taxes to support the D.C. elites. I create wealth, I don't have an interest in redistributing it.

It still astounds me how any Conservative can even entertain the thought that GOP leaders in D.C. are concerned with limited government. It's laughable.

64 posted on 01/21/2013 3:18:23 PM PST by sand88
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To: sand88

The American Conservative Union gives Paul Ryan a 92% lifetime rating on conservative voting. Rick Santorum gets an 87% by contrast. How much more ideological purity do you expect? And who could Romney have picked that would have achieved that level of perfection you apparently demand in a candidate?


65 posted on 01/21/2013 3:26:28 PM PST by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: Vladiator

“Paul Ryan deserves to be booed. He let down the country along with the guy who picked him as VP nominee. Time for him to think about where he is.”

i think its the folks who would not support R2 who let down this country. 4 more years of BO ought to be enough time to cement the fate of America: not for the better.


66 posted on 01/21/2013 3:30:48 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
I’ll back Paul Ryan any day as he has manners and IS respectful of the office of the president.

Thank you!

67 posted on 01/21/2013 3:32:45 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: fatnotlazy
I'm guessing he endorsed Romney because, looking at the field of candidates, made the decision, that many did, that Romney had a good chance of winning. And he did, losing only by a very slim margin. Sadly, the GOP did not get out the vote like the Democrats did.

Too many stayed home in a snit, either because 'their candidate' didn't win the primary, or because Romney was a Mormon, or he just wasn't conservative enough for them. If someone stayed home on election day, I frankly think they should just shut up about anything Obama does over the next four years, because they had the opportunity to defeat him, and chose to sit it out. They're getting exactly what they wanted, no Romney as President.

68 posted on 01/21/2013 3:42:26 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: MissesBush
Instead, he faced a chorus of boos

The left wing low lives have absolutely no class, and they smell bad.

69 posted on 01/21/2013 3:47:07 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MissesBush

I’m surprised any low-intelligence voters even knew who he was, unless it was Nancy Pelosi leading the boos...


70 posted on 01/21/2013 3:50:22 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: sand88

I create wealth too, and I don’t have either the time or the personal capacity and interest to run.

So neither of us can be there...but pick somebody and support them, criticize them (and tell them) when you disagree, and don’t let Obama take over.

We’re having this trivial discussion while he’s busy thinking about how he can ignore even the most timid of our elected representatives.


71 posted on 01/21/2013 3:53:26 PM PST by livius
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To: terycarl

Oh?

What are they?


72 posted on 01/21/2013 3:53:54 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Agreed. Lots of sour grapes being eaten of late.


73 posted on 01/21/2013 4:00:33 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MissesBush

Exactly. I think Mormonism is a cult akin to Scientology and Romney was certainly a first-class RINO. But I voted for him and even worked for him.

If conservatives had been more united, we could probably have exerted enough pressure to get a better candidate. But since we had so many people who thought Newt Gingrich had been married too many times, others who thought one or another of the candidates wasn’t exactly living the perfect personal life (since ideas didn’t seem to matter for the truly fanatical, only purity of life), we ended up with a Mormon RINO who had been running with his own money since about 2006.

Like Dole, he finally got his turn, and like Dole, he couldn’t turn out the votes.

But what I don’t understand is that why, as you say, with the cliffs before us, conservatives couldn’t understand the strategy. Romney was a horrible candidate, it was conservative weakness and his personal fortune that let him get to that point...but once that has happened, you have to move on.

We’d be a lot better off today if it were Romney being sworn in...instead of a Muslim Marxist America-hating racist.


74 posted on 01/21/2013 4:04:30 PM PST by livius
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
Well, I AM from Wisconsin, although he’s not my rep, I must say I’m disappointed in the comments here on Freeper. Paul Ryan is one of the good guys. We conservatives will NEVER find a rep that we agree with 100% of the time.

Is it possible that we might find a rep that we agree with 1% of the time? How about a rep that agrees with us 1% of the time?

Look at these comments! This is what The WON wants us to do. Eat our own. Don’t fall for this. The trash, low class folks that show their ignorance and level of education by booing / hollaring at Paul Ryan are the types that are slobbering on the O man today. Write a letter to the editor rather than taking it out on Paul Ryan, please.

Firstly, I have no "own". There is no one in Washington who represents me or wants to represent me. What there is in Washington is tyrants, cowards, traitors, and climbers.

I’ll back Paul Ryan any day as he has manners and IS respectful of the office of the president.

Should I show manners and respect to those who would be my tyrant? I am not going to do that, and those who do are weak, and they will be crushed.

And yes, I am sick to my stomach that O was elected, although I figure it was by voter fraud.

You are foolish with that statement. Obama did not manufacture 60 million + votes. Most of those votes are from free people who voted to no longer be free, and the reason they did that is because they have be manufactured to be slaves since the day they were born.

They do not even know what freedom is, what it means or where it comes from, and Paul Ryan is not going to tell them or anyone who comes after them.

Only the free can make more free, otherwise freedom will die with the free.

75 posted on 01/21/2013 4:04:30 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Mr. Blond

Totally agree...


76 posted on 01/21/2013 4:06:17 PM PST by FatherFig1o155 (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.)
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To: livius

The only person who can represent me is me, livius.

Muc as I hate to say this, resprentative government as exists in this country is an absolute total failure, and there is no way to fix it, because it relies upon men, and men are corrupt.


77 posted on 01/21/2013 4:07:53 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
And yes, I am sick to my stomach that O was elected, although I figure it was by voter fraud.

There was some fraud. But the tired 140% claims only take a few minutes to look up and debunk. Our main problem is the size of the government, all levels but federal is the worst. The democrats have levered that to their advantage. They give 1/2 billion to Planned Parenthood every year and in return/anticipation Planned Parent ran millions of dollars of negative Romney ads. The republicans have been ineffective at stopping this but that's mainly because they are not serious about cutting government either.

78 posted on 01/21/2013 4:16:53 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: livius

I’ll crticize this position of Ryan’s.

He’s weak. He’s purposely weak. Not only is he weak, he does not even try to be strong. He signals in advance how he will fold, just like every other republican.

How is he any different from Boehner, McConnel, McCain, Goober Graham, Cantor, Powell, Romney, ...any one of them...

How is he any different than every single other utterly inconsequnetial republican that has ever walked the face of this earth outside of Ronald Reagan?


79 posted on 01/21/2013 4:16:53 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MissesBush

You might add the term “putrid.” However, your rewording did carry a more accurate meaning.


80 posted on 01/21/2013 4:36:29 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

“I’ll back Paul Ryan any day as he has manners and IS respectful of the office of the president.’

I agree that Paul was being classy by going. However, I hope he now realizes what he is dealing with; and doubles down on the debt ceiling and goes after the real entitlements.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Cor 6:14


81 posted on 01/21/2013 5:14:35 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: Wisconsinlady
and what communion hath light with darkness?

The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. ...

82 posted on 01/21/2013 5:23:06 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

“The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. ... “

Amen.


83 posted on 01/21/2013 5:45:22 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: a fool in paradise

http://www.conservativehq.com/article/11771-thank-establishment-gop-today%E2%80%99s-inauguration

Richard Vaguerie nails what we already know.
We must not forget who is most to blame for today’s events: The GOP-E for nominating a cr*p candidate who DIDN’T EVEN WANT TO WIN. Thanks Mittens, Tokyo Rove, Adams Apple Annie, Reince and the rest of you phony RINOS who just don’t have a clue what the word CONSERVATIVE means.


84 posted on 01/21/2013 6:36:26 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The Weekly Standard is citing HuffPo here.

Thanks MissesBush.


85 posted on 01/21/2013 7:53:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Kanzan
Why do get the sickening feeling that some of you posters are people who stayed home in a sulk on election day. If you didn’t vote for Romney/Ryan on November 6, you are unworthly of living in the same country as Paul Ryan.

? LOL...my friends would get a kick out of that "accusation"..I was probably the most obnoxiuos perso that they had ever seen when it came to the election....I had multipule signs at my home and business, I never shut up about the evils of Obama....did I sit home????nope, I went (for the county ) to nursing homes, hospitals, and shut ins to allow them to vote ( we called it the travel board..

86 posted on 01/21/2013 9:22:39 PM PST by terycarl
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To: sand88
Ryan is strategic?? That is the most ridiculous thing I heard in a good while. Please tell me just one aspect of Ryan's "brilliant" strategy

o.k....so let's hear YOUR idea of Utopis...be specific!

87 posted on 01/21/2013 9:31:42 PM PST by terycarl
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To: terycarl; MissesBush
o.k....so let's hear YOUR idea of Utopis...be specific!

The American Conservative Union gives Paul Ryan a 92% lifetime rating on conservative voting.

And who could Romney have picked that would have achieved that level of perfection you apparently demand in a candidate?

What I found annoying is the seemingly sycophantic belief that Ryan is some wonderful Conservative. I don't care what the ACU says, I believe a principled Conservative would never vote for such Statist programs as NCLB, Medicare Part-D and ethanol susidies.

Ryan is a nice guy and if this was the 80's his conservatism would be on the side of Liberty.

My frustration is with people who actually believe leaders like Ryan can make a difference. We are quickly approaching the time when Congress will truly become irrelevant. Economic reality will have to be faced by all.

Looking ahead we have a very hard left party that is H*llbent on increasing government power to a maddening level. Obama and the evil left will keep filling the government with sadistic people at the EPA and all throughout the bureaucracy. He is well on his way to destroying our Constitutional Republic and free enterprise system.

The world has been in a deflationary state for some time. The moment the Feds can't effectively control interest rates, then things will turn very bad. The Interest payments on the debt will start increasing at an accelerating rate. At that point we will know the end game is certain.

I believe Obama would like to set up things so that at the end of his second term he will have in place the mechanisms to cause the final currency collapse (he hopes after he leaves)

The left's biggest worry is keeping the lid on things through the Marxist's 2nd term.

I believe as the general situation deteriorates that leaders will rise up and present themselves. They most likely will be Governors or some other yet unknown persons.

They will have to be totally non-PC and fearlessly tell the world that the left is pure evil. The left has not faced any blowback for many, many years.

D.C. will never downsize itself. The last hope we have for a peaceful rollback of the Federal leviathan lies with the States. States have the Constitutional power to dissolve and remove all unconstitutional powers now held by the D.C parasite class.

Unfortunately, the only time that power will be recognized and appreciated is at the moment the Federal government becomes most dangerous -- at the point of imminent collapse. There will be a small window of time to allow a peaceful solution.

88 posted on 01/21/2013 10:22:53 PM PST by sand88
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To: sand88

There is no such person as the perfect conservative. You’re living in fantasy land. Even Reagan gave in to liberal policies in having raised taxes and having allowed amnesty. He also allowed large deficits. Don’t get me wrong, I think Reagan was an incredible man and an incredible president, but he had to bend on occassion too. I don’t think you’d deny Reagan was a principled conservative since on balance he was. Paul Ryan too is by far conservative, a few stray votes not withstanding. I judge a conservative on the vast predominance of their positions, not a few errant votes.


89 posted on 01/22/2013 10:26:50 AM PST by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: MissesBush
There is no such person as the perfect conservative. You’re living in fantasy land.

fantasy land? Such a dumb response. I never ever implied I was looking for a "perfect" Conservative. None will ever exist.

The main thrust of my arguments are against those who seem to believe that the likes of Ryan will make a difference. They all are utterly irrelevant. The power and momentum of the left in D.C. is currently unstoppable.

Economic reality will eventually force the States to finally take the initiative to save our Republic. The Federal leviathan will be rolled back one way or another.

Again, it is my belief that no true Conservative would ever cast a vote for Medicare Part-D, and No Child Left behind. These were not errant votes.

We will have to agree to disagree. Have a good day.

90 posted on 01/22/2013 3:27:41 PM PST by sand88
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