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To: Cicero
They need to look into the reasons, but they could be reasonable. Evidently there was no chance for the woman, and the unborn children’s lives really depended on hitting an emergency room where someone could act almost instantly. If you’ve ever been to an emergency room, I’m afraid that’s not very likely. A matter of luck, really. Not something to make the hospital pay for, unless there are factors not hinted at in the article.

If all of this is the case, then there's no reason to go into the "unborn babies aren't people" argument. I realize that the lawyer is doing his job ... but his client needs to remind him who and what he's representing.

Now ... I looked up Catholic Health Initiative ... interesting bunch. There are NO clerics in their National Leadership or Board of Stewardship Trustees. There are a half dozen or so sisters from a list of Participating Congregations, the overwhelming majority of which are unhabited, elderly sisters ... ie. '60s left-over 'social justice' types. This does not bode well, and strongly suggests (to me) a critical lack of authentically Catholic oversight.

They deserve rebuke, IMO, for giving scandal. This argument that the law doesn't define unborn as people, therefore you can't sue us does come across as hypocritical.

11 posted on 01/24/2013 12:46:24 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
This argument that the law doesn't define unborn as people, therefore you can't sue us does come across as hypocritical. It strikes me as "Don't throw me in the briar patch."
13 posted on 01/24/2013 12:53:45 PM PST by Dutchgirl ("What I believe about God is the most important thing about me." A.W. Tozer)
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To: ArrogantBustard
critical lack of authentically Catholic oversight.

This is why I no longer work in Catholic healthcare. I keep wishing that God would raise up a mighty order to get back into our healthcare facilities and set thing aright. So many are run by essentially secular groups that want the "Catholic" label but not the fidelity to Catholic teaching.

They deserve rebuke, IMO, for giving scandal

They have certainly given scandal! I'm just not certain from the article where the source of scandal lies. Is the attorney carrying out the defense the hospital wants him to? Who directed this defense?

Because of pending litigaton the hospital probably cannot speak out. But someone sure ought to!

19 posted on 01/24/2013 1:53:31 PM PST by PeevedPatriot
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yes, I didn’t look them up, but I suspected this might be one of those heterodox “Catholic” hospital organizations.

Still, I suspect that there are a hundred other things you could fault them for that are worse than this. Either this organization or one very much like it, for instance, backed Obamacare, from what I remember. The nun who headed the outfit spoke out on that—I just don’t recall her name.

Maybe I just don’t have a high opinion of lawyers, but if this will win the case and prevent someone from sucking a few millions more from a Catholic charity—even a faulty Catholic charity—then I can’t object too strongly. I don’t think it will set any legal precedents that haven’t been set a thousand times before by our opponents, and nobody is actually offering to kill a baby.


20 posted on 01/24/2013 2:57:33 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ArrogantBustard

http://www.prolifephysicians.org/lifebegins.htm

They don’t want to get rid of abortion - so they stay under the law of men as it is now defined. However, doctors do know when life begins and it is not rocket science. Roe/Wade needs to be addressed to discount that lie. Why doesn’t the CHI have one of those doctors at the link enter into their case. If they really wanted to win, they would. So without checking them out like you did, I can see they are on the side of evil.


27 posted on 01/24/2013 6:16:44 PM PST by presently no screen name
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