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Massive Explosion Reported at Iran's Fordow Nuclear Facility [plus TXnMA Photo Analysis]
Business Insider Military and Defense ^ | Jan. 28, 2013, 7:03 AM | Robert Johnson

Posted on 01/29/2013 1:35:14 PM PST by TXnMA

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To: Ouderkirk
HF being a calcium seeker will turn their bones into rubber and slurry the rest.

That's what I meant: a hell of an awful way to go.

121 posted on 01/31/2013 2:08:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: visualops
Yeah -- I know I "went a bridge too far" with edge sharpening and "unsharp mask" on my "cruise missile view" photo in my #120, but, WTH ...I was just goofing around anyway... '-)
122 posted on 01/31/2013 2:17:02 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: grey_whiskers; Ouderkirk
Yep,I spent most of my civilian career in semiconductor processing, and I once inadvertantly put my elbow down on a surface that had a drop of HF on it. I did rinse it off as soon as I realized it was there -- and...

Spending an hour with your elbow in a bucket of ice is no fun -- but it sure beats the possible alternative!

123 posted on 01/31/2013 2:26:41 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
STD: After you read my #120, (and the rest of this thread) I believe you owe me a FReepMail...
124 posted on 01/31/2013 2:31:38 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: STD
STD, #124 was meant to be addressed to you...
125 posted on 01/31/2013 2:43:39 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If there is anyone else you feel should be pinged to my #120, please do so.

Thanks,

TnMA

126 posted on 01/31/2013 2:50:04 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I viewed some of the postings that you contributed in. What I found apparent is the Google Maps/Google Earth images you worked with did not represent the date the alleged attack on said facility took place. They where at best month old plus.
Including Google Earth sat images from back in 2011.
I simply held quiet on that point. I thought that perhaps you had access to current sat photos of that site, within say the period just prior to the alleged attack took place and perhaps days or even hours afterward, and somehow superimposed them upon what we find at the Google site, that we can all view in various time frames.
In short. I did not want to hamper any work being done by you or perhaps others, that could elicit a confirmation that indeed this facility was indeed breached.
To date, it appears there has been no confirmation by the body of world news agencies that the attack on this site happened as reported by some.
Is the world news agencies sitting on this issue, perhaps awaiting some further solid information to surface.

Are they all awaiting on some news from reliable sources?
Who knows. I don't.
Thank you for your service to your country in the form of military service. And do continue to enjoy those blessings HE has bestowed upon you at present, and perhaps in the future.

127 posted on 01/31/2013 9:18:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: TXnMA; Marine_Uncle; SunkenCiv; blam; TigersEye; justa-hairyape; onyx; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; ...
Very, very interesting....

Hmmm.....sure looked good to me.....but i know nuthing about this imaging stuff.

So who might have done the doctoring of the photos...?

Guess that would be a good question.

See post #120.

128 posted on 01/31/2013 9:48:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TXnMA; Marine_Uncle

Post their reply when and if you get one.


129 posted on 01/31/2013 10:03:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Cindy
See the updates,...by TXnMA
130 posted on 01/31/2013 10:08:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Marine_Uncle; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I use Google Earth all the time (for purposes explained in #120), and am painfully aware of that failing for real-time surveillance. In fact, the "before" image I used is date stamped 12SEP2011.

News sources, however, can pay to get current overflight photos -- and that is precisely why my analysis focused on the (undated) [and doctored, it turns out] photo from Business Insider's report on the "explosion".

All I could do was examine it to see if the appearance looked plausible -- then do detailed tests to determine if there was evidence of fakery. I was able to replicate the "damage" effect using "Photoshop tricks" -- and then to find those same "giveaway clues" in the BI image.

Thank you for following my work, and for your restraint in "keeping me honest". That's all we can do: be honest with -- and thoughtful of -- each other.

Unfortunately, too many FReepers nowadays have the attention spans of toddlers with ADHD, and once I showed that I could see no "blood in the water", bailed out of the discussion for other "news". Worse, many desperately wanted bad news out of Iran, and when I didn't "produce" what they wanted, apparently dismissed my analysis as "biased", and left in disgust. And that includes one long-time FReeper who should know better -- and shall remain unnamed... :-(

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Oh, well, during this exercise, I learned far more than I revealed about ways to use Google Earth for intelligence gathering -- and am now building a KML file database on all reported Iranian nuke sites -- "placemarking" features like tunnel entrances, ventilation shafts, utility entry points, defense structures, etc. So -- when they do get "put out of business", I will know what to look for -- and have a "time zero image base" to work from -- IF post-strike photos become available.

Again, thank you for your courtesy and honesty!

132 posted on 02/01/2013 4:53:59 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Well, you have joined the ranks of several dedicated FReepers who over the years took upon themselves a task of ultimate service to the forum.

I thank you for your service and now feel confident of the real poop on events at Iranian nuclear sites.


133 posted on 02/01/2013 4:58:44 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Marine_Uncle

Roger, WILCO. (But, I’m not holding my breath...)


134 posted on 02/01/2013 5:02:46 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Strategerist
Actually, unless has personal meaning for you, you lack access to the best data...
135 posted on 02/01/2013 5:43:00 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Marine_Uncle

...as do we all...


136 posted on 02/01/2013 5:45:54 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: bert

Thank you, (more than you realize) FRiend... :-)


137 posted on 02/01/2013 5:49:13 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: AppyPappy

Yes, that’s what a sane president would say about it.


138 posted on 02/01/2013 5:50:53 AM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: Political Junkie Too

Well... I guess that shows I’m down to about 3 operating brain cells.

You are correct, and I THANK YOU for catching what was such an obvious mistake. (I’ll probably be putting 2012 on my checks as well for a while)

SO now, we have an actual ‘fact’ to support the ‘claim’ there was an explosion. Again, THANKS.


139 posted on 02/01/2013 12:19:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: Strategerist
All I can tell you is that Jay Carney wasn’t lying.

All I can tell you is that apparently, I haven't caught on to the fact that this is 2013, not 2012.

PJ-Comix noted that my data was from 2012, not 2013.

The data for 2013 shows seismic activity , that day, in that location.

140 posted on 02/01/2013 12:22:21 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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