Posted on 01/30/2013 7:37:52 PM PST by hiho hiho
Their models/predictions didn't work the first time, but maybe if they work the next time, we're in big trouble! /s
After having spent an entire life time, following, not just world history, ancient history, fairly recent current history, such as the Decline of the Anasazi Culture back in ? ought 1200-1400 A.D. or is it the newer politically correct time stamp?
There have always been cycles of droughts and wet spells, changing climates, long before we had factories, pollution breathing coal fired plants, etc.
Just read some of the translated treastises from Ancient Egypt, Babylonia, Mayan, and other assorted cultures through time.
Let us get real!!!
A rise, centuries and eons ago, of CO2 emissions, occurred, AFTER a GLOBAL WARMING.
NOT BEFORE!!!
AND NOT THE CAUSE!!!
Possibly brought on by a meterorite that detonated on the surface of our planet, or perhaps, the widespread fires created by another major meterorite, or perhaps, Nobody really knows!!!
KEYWORD: NOBODY REALLY KNOWS!!!
Live in an area where there are folks coming through complaining about health problems related to cowsies’ flatulance.
Perfectly serious about their facts.
The rise in CO2, Methane Gas, etc.
For thousands of centuries, since the cow was domesticated, children, and other folks have lived off their bounty.
My simple REALITY CHECK!!! Back in the 50’s in a basic elementary school science lesson, taught the basics of Human Breathing.
We breathe in Oxygen, it circulates through the lungs, goes through a complicated exhange of whatever, and is expelled as, ooops!!!! CO2.
The CO2 is then absorbed by plants, who utilize it in their photosynthesis, to not only produce chlorophill? (Green up the plant, provide valuable nutrients, especially for human and animal consuption)but produce oxygen as a byproduct.
NOT CO2!!! or METHANE!!!
The Eco movement began back in the 60’s and promoted an UNBALANCED VIEW OF NATURE.
Whatever happened to the balanced Native American View of Nature?
Whatever happened to Informed Facts, Substantiated, Facts???
As in Factual???
Disappeared, somewhere along the rise of technology for Techno Zombies, Unrestrained Cell Phone Usage, and the latest Craze of Text Messaging.
Goodbye Critical Thinking Skills, Rationality, Responsibility.
However, just to live up to my moniker of Polly Anna, will provide you with some options for balance through humor.
If you want a HUMOROUS TAKE ON GLOBAL WARMING, just visit the MINNASOTANS FOR GLOBAL WARMING (on U-Tube).
Additional links on their site will lead you to more scientific thoughts from Lord Mockington, a British Scientist who is doing what he can to Debunk the Global Warming Model.
And other concerned parties who whole heartedly believe in Promoting and Encouraging Critical Thinking Skills, not to mention, COMMON SENSE!!!
Polly Anna G. Clay
Good post IMO. BTTT
Working at Pizza Hut and Jiffy Lube requires a basic knowledge of science and analysis. The global warming advocates have not demonstrated this ability.
They ask “How should scientists explain this to the public.”
Instead, they should be asking “Why should the public believe anything these scientists say?”
“The Science is settled” “Denialists should be prosecuted” I hope this means our spell in the Warmists re-education camps has been postponed.
Polly: WELCOME TO FR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Develop a thick skin quickly, as some of us are still trying to get a passing grade in Manners 101, follow Jim Robinson’s Rules, and donate when you can.
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Great thoughtful comments Polly, thanks! Few of us recognize cycles in our 3 score and 10, but as you pointed out, History is replete with cycles.
IMHO, we live in an age of zero accountability. GW is an excellent example as follows:
1.) The popular speculation is that there is a Cause-and-Effect relationship between the concentration of CO2 and the temperature in the atmosphere.
2.) In the discipline of SCIENCE, all ideas are objectively tested REPEATEDLY! To the best of my knowledge, there have been NO published Scientific tests of ANY Cause-and Effect relationship between Temp and CO2.
3.) Without objective testing the GW idea remains a pure speculation supported by junk scientists.
4.) A cross-plot of Temp and CO2 concentration with time does show a rough correlation between the two, but with significant cyclical deviations, such as in the mid-1940’s.
5.) Scientific Cause-and-Effect testing of ideas has been replaced by statistical INFERENCE “testing” in the published high-quality Scientific Literature.
6.) The GW Speculation currently has over 200 dependent and independent variables, and thus is securely impervious to Scientific Testing.
7.) We are thus in the age of NO Accountability, in junk science, or in National Politics. Well, unless one is from the “show me” State of Missouri !
BTW, for Scientists and Politicians, the most difficult thing for them to say is the following: “I don’t know.” As a result ideas are held onto for long periods of time, even though there is no proof known to support those ideas.
Be the first on your block to holler “PROVE IT!”
However, be prepared for all sorts of cheap, verbal abuse, as junk scientists, and junk politicians hate to be held accountable for their actions and inactions.
Woa, woa, woe there bud,
not so fast...
Just b/c it appears the Sun is the center of our solar system 2 things still remain:
a. Michelson-Morley experiments could find no solar wind and no one has repeated these experiments afaik. But even Einstein said both sun-centered and Earth-centered solar systems are supported by the math. Earth centered just makes he math much more complicated - heck I get dizzy just thinking about it - pun intended.
b. We could very well be the center of the universe! In fact it make the big bang and Einstein’s gravitational time dilation and relativity much more palatable for true believers.
Lastly though it could just be that we, mankind, are the central primary focus and attention of God. Afterall, He did say [and show somewhat] that we are created in His image.
Not too mention if they truly understood Earth’s climate change then they’d be much better at forecasting accurate weather for more than 1-2 days/weeks. Instead it appears they are just more likely to predict the more extreme models to pacify the masses when they get the good news that the local expert was wrong in our favor...
THAT we can fix. Just add some SF6 (sulfur hexafluoride) to the stratosphere. Very stable molecule.....HUGE greenhouse enhancer (I think it either one of, or THE strongest greenhouse gas known...23,000 x that of CO2).
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