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To: Trailerpark Badass

Well here is the crux of the issue to me

Did that Priest make this up:

” Several said Maciel told them he had permission from Pope Pius XII to seek them out sexually for relief of physical pain.”

Or did the Pope really give him permission.

Given the wide spread abuse within the Catholic church you have to wonder if they weren’t given permission.


50 posted on 02/01/2013 10:11:27 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/more-documents-link-ratzinger-abuse-cases\

How many people were molested while Ratzinger let him be a Priest

“The [Oakland, Calif.] diocese recommended removing [Stephen] Kiesle (KEEZ’-lee) from the priesthood in 1981, the year Ratzinger was appointed to head the Vatican office which shared responsibility for disciplining abusive priests.

The case then languished for four years at the Vatican before Ratzinger finally wrote to Oakland Bishop John Cummins. It was two more years before Kiesle was removed.

In the November 1985 letter, Ratzinger says the arguments for removing Kiesle are of “grave significance” but added that such actions required very careful review and more time. He also urged the bishop to provide Kiesle with “as much paternal care as possible” while awaiting the decision …

But the future pope also noted that any decision to defrock Kiesle must take into account the “good of the universal church” and the “detriment that granting the dispensation can provoke within the community of Christ’s faithful, particularly considering the young age.” Kiesle was 38 at the time. “


53 posted on 02/01/2013 10:19:17 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
No offense, but I don't have to wonder anything.

I'll leave that to you.

54 posted on 02/01/2013 10:24:35 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: RummyChick
**Given the wide spread abuse within the Catholic church you have to wonder if they weren’t given permission.**

Oh, what a falsehood.


Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year

Abuse by Protestant Ministers of Every Denomination

Child Sexual Molestation by Various Protestant Clergy

Baptist Predators website

"Yeshiva" of Brooklyn also Guilty of Child Abuse

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Sex Abuse by Teachers Said Worse Than Catholic Church

WHEN BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY TEACHERS AND OTHERS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY

 

Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests

 


77 posted on 02/01/2013 7:08:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RummyChick

Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.

“They might deal with it internally, suspending the person or having the person move on. So their license is never investigated,” says Charol Shakeshaft, a leading expert in teacher sex abuse who heads the educational leadership department at Virginia Commonwealth University.

It’s a dynamic so common it has its own nicknames—“passing the trash” or the “mobile molester.”

Laws in several states require that even an allegation of sexual misconduct be reported to the state departments that oversee teacher licenses. But there’s no consistent enforcement, so such laws are easy to ignore.

School officials fear public embarrassment as much as the perpetrators do, Shakeshaft says. They want to avoid the fallout from going up against a popular teacher. They also don’t want to get sued by teachers or victims, and they don’t want to face a challenge from a strong union.



78 posted on 02/01/2013 7:09:18 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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