[lesslucid]

BTW welcome to Free Republic. Hope to see you for more than a day.

Thanks! I hope I find I want to stick around, too.

I generally ignore any charts with a suppressed zero. Both lines on your chart have a suppressed zero.

If having a suppressed zero just means the non-inclusion of irrelevant leading zeroes, as per the wikipedia article on "zero suppression", I don't see the problem. If it means something else, perhaps you could let me know what that is.

I am also highly skeptical of any data from NASA GISS

OK, propose an alternate source of data on temperatures and solar irradiance for the last century, and we can see if it contradicts the claim that solar irradiance and global temperatures are not moving in sync. I certainly don't mean to cherry-pick the data, just to use whatever is available and accurate to arrive at the truth.

[Moltke]

suppressed zero = suppressed origin in cartesian coordinates (the “O” where the x and y axes meet).

This leads to a visual distortion (often intended) of the data.

On a proper scale that divergence in your plot would hardly be visible.

(Thanks NPS, btw, for pointing this out - I’ve done so a few times and received some very weird responses...*sigh*)