Posted on 02/07/2013 6:50:50 AM PST by Perdogg
Let’s put ideology aside for a moment.
Karl Rove, architect of the George W. Bush-era Republican victories, says he’s sick of fanatics running his party into the ground. So he’s devised a strategy to preemptively sink unelectable candidates early in the process. He’s formed a new super PAC to implement this strategy. It’s called the Conservative Victory Project, and it’s led by a guy named Steven Law, who was the head of another super PAC, called American Crossroads, which went something like 0-7 in the 2012 election cycle. (Not that anyone’s counting.)
Grass-roots conservatives, needless to say, are quite perturbed. “I’m filing the paperwork to form a super PAC to support freedom-loving conservative alternatives to (Karl Rove) on FOX,” tweeted former Rep. Joe Walsh. Surely, he won’t be the last to counter Rove’s efforts
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Sorry, but Christine O’Donnell is a fruit loop who was playing WAY out of her league in running for the Senate.
Please name for me the non-GOP-E candidate who you think could have beat Obama. And please don’t say Santorum. As a two term incumbent he lost his Senate race by 18 points. Thats an ass-whuppin of epic proportions. To think he could have won a national race is laughable.
“Let’s put ideology aside for a moment.”
“What difference does it make?” ~ Hillary Clinton
Nice dodge of the bigger picture - many GOP-E House and Senate candidates lost as well. I think Perry would have been able to beat Obama had he not developed foot-in-mouth disease. I also think a lot of other good candidates didn’t run because of Romney and his support base.
You are offereing a straw choice, and perverting time or ignoring the passage of time in your shallow facile little analogy that is flawed nine ways from Sunday.
But to answer your poorly structured scenario, they should have fought to keep their party from becoming Stalinist. I would imagine some of them did. In the meantime, I suppose they voted mostly for that party. Of course, by “old school” Democrats you mean Reagan Democrats or even future Republicans - meaning they hand a natural landing place to jump too from the Democrat Party.
Thus, your analogy does not apply to this situation in any way, shape or form, but nice try. So no, don’t even try to pigeon hole “my perspective” into such a straw argument.
sick of fanatics?
haa.
how about ‘sick of phonies’ who promise one thing, deliver another, roll over for the Left like a trained seal.. and then toot their horn at the end of the act.
...or not! At least not a GOOD one!
Right, it is difficult to expect a relative newcomer such as Sharon Angle to go up against “the machine” like Harry Reid.
I guess you don't live anywhere near Nevada, do you? Sharron Angle (note the spelling) was not the best R candidate to run against Harry Reid. (I could be more descriptive, but I don't want to run afoul of defamation law.) And who put up SA? Lots of speculation about that one on the part of Nevada pundits. Especially as you refer to Reid's operation as a "machine" and, as I recall from Chicago machine politics, you do anything for your candidate, even vote the opposite-party ballot if you can.
Given Ms. Angle's public positions, even if she were a seasoned vet with a massive machine of her own, she would have gone down.
No, the disconnect is that you don’t know the difference between stage one and stage four, and who causes which.
Enjoy the purity of your irrelevance.
Well, I love you too. :-)
BTW. Stage four is terminal. It has been obviously terminal since 2008. It was stage three in 2000.
No, the disconnect is that you don’t know the difference between stage one and stage four, and who causes which.
Enjoy the purity of your irrelevance.
Believing electing a different political party or person can change our plight is like voting for a new captain and crew on the Titanic after it has gone dead in the water.
As for me and my family, we’re scrounging the ship for hammers and nails so we can build our own life boat from deck chairs. Others will try to plug the hole and others will try to get the motor started. Good luck with that. The structure of the vessel precludes either from being a viable solution path, though you will never convince them of that. ;-)
Not hardly. People are still piling on, and the election is over.
In 2012, the those of us who vote 3rd party and those of us who “hold our noses” and vote for the GOPe can both look forward to our candidates losing.
The difference is that those of us who voted 3rd party can at least be proud of our vote.
Apparently, the GOP doesn’t miss our votes, either, because it’s not working to win them back. Maybe when it decides to become a party want to support, we’ll support it again.
Stage four is terminal, but thinking that both parties equally participated in the infection is brain dead. Both parties participated, but the “equally” notion is absurd.
No, you can't, because what your attitude shows is that your are so arrogant and out of touch with reality that you look at a vote as something about "you." No, it's not that at all. It's not about you. That's not what a vote is. This is a sick navel gazing narcissisitc attitude with no connection to reality.
Is anyone really surprised that Human Events has come out swing in Roves defense? They have consistently carried the water for the GOP establishment every time push came to shove.
Like the Weekly Standard, I canceled both subscription back when they consistantly supported RINO candidates in 2006. Thus leading to the Democrats takeover of Congress and our inevitable demise.
Hey moderator,
Is just me, or am I being singled out from joining FreeRepublic? I have been following FR for about 4 years. Right after O was elected I was turned on to this site by a friend, and I really like it. But I only read and never joined.
Now I have read numerous posts by people who signed up the same day they joined, but for some reason I am still on probation. Is it because I am using an iPhone to comment? Do I have to use a PCM before I am taken off probation?
It sucks having to always wait so long to seey comment posted. How am I supposed to carry on a decent conversation with anyone?
So tell me please, what’s the deal?
Stage four is terminal, but thinking that both parties equally participated in the infection is brain dead. Both parties participated, but the “equally” notion is absurd.
That is one we agree on. The core problem for me is that the two parties are in power because of the electorate. And as I have strongly believed for decades, those we elect are not the problem. The problem is the electorate.
P. J O’Roarke made an interesting comment about 20 years ago, and I paraphrase, “Do you wonder why Americans choose the elected officials they do? Well, have you listened to their music, seen their music and the books they read? Hell, have you been to the mall and SEEN ‘EM?
I have. That is one of the reasons I believe it is terminal and has been for quite a while.
The damage has been done beyond repair. The bus is headed for a concrete wall 50 feet ahead at 80 mph. How you apply the brakes really doesn’t matter that much now. That was a decision for 1,000 feet back. I’d worry about how effective your seat belt is.
Why do you still beat this dead horse?
I think the probation ends after a certain number of posts, as opposed to time.
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