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Ex-cop manhunt: Fresh tracks found in Big Bear snow
LAT ^ | February 7, 2013 | 3:27pm

Posted on 02/07/2013 4:28:36 PM PST by BenLurkin

Authorities in Big Bear have spotted fresh tracks believed to be those of a fugitive ex-Los Angeles police officer wanted in connection with a series of shootings and are combing the area for him, a Fire Department official told The Times.

Big Bear Lake Fire Department Asst. Chief Mark Mills also said the burning pickup discovered on a forest road has been linked to Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, sought in connection with a series of shootings that have left three people dead and two wounded.

TV helicopters showed the pickup being readied to be towed from the scene.

The truck was discovered hours into an intensive manhunt for Dorner that spanned Southern California. Although sources said there had been multiple reported sightings of Dorner's truck in the Big Bear area on Thursday, the burnt truck was too badly charred to immediately confirm it was his.

Meanwhile, the mountain community locked down schools and closed the nearby Bear Mountain Resort as a fatigue-clad SWAT team walked through the woods, rifles drawn.

Sean Jacques, director of loss prevention for Big Bear Mountain Resorts, said that after the burning truck was discovered on a forest service road, local law enforcement told resort officials to keep an eye out for Dorner and provided a description of the suspect.

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TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copkiller; dorner; lapd; leftwingmurderer; manhunt; partisanmediashills; socalkiller; socalmanhunt
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To: JRandomFreeper

I argue with a lot of liberals on Facebook all the time. They routinely laugh at the idea of how armed citizens could ever stand up to the police or military.

I’ll tell you the thing that’s got them on their ass right now. It’s one, single, solitary, determined man with a gun, running all of SoCal law enforcement in circles. They’re so scared they’re shooting at Asian women in vaguely similar trucks.

I asked them what they thought it would look like if this scenario had ten men instead of one. Or a thousand. Or more.

They ain’t laughing now.


151 posted on 02/07/2013 8:39:50 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: struggle

Just yesterday or the day before, he supposedly tried to steal a boat in San Diego.


152 posted on 02/07/2013 8:40:42 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Yardstick
Yep, he LOVES obama too. Here is a link to his manifesto. http://www.crimefilenews.com/2013/02/fired-lapd-officer-obama-lover-and.html
153 posted on 02/07/2013 8:43:42 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Steel Wolf

More than a few have taken notice of this. You’re probably aware this isn’t the first time where one or two individuals have created this type of utter fear, chaos and paranoia.


154 posted on 02/07/2013 8:45:09 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah, I’m pretty sure he’s out in the desert now with a place to hide. It’s cool in the daytime in the desert and if he wrote that long of a crappy manifesto than he definitely had time to plan.

The police won’t find him anytime soon unless he’s about to go drastic again.


155 posted on 02/07/2013 8:51:25 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: old curmudgeon

Hmmm, tracks in the snow and a burning vehicle. How very discreet! Wonder how many booby traps have been set along that trail.


156 posted on 02/07/2013 8:52:45 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: dragnet2

Sure, I know that, but most liberals think that history started this morning, so the effect is more pronounced. ;-)

Another nice factor is that this guy is a rising liberal folk hero. No joke, if he survives this ordeal he could run for congress and win in half of California right now. Liberals are in the very unusual position of cheering on a guy doing what they have been saying is impossible.


157 posted on 02/07/2013 8:56:14 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: mnehring

The Perp torched his Nissan Titan Crew Cab. He didn’t have a Ford.


158 posted on 02/07/2013 9:02:18 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Heck, cops here, way far away from the action are, for once, showing a little situational awareness.

This problem will need to be resolved quickly, or it will be like Carter's 444 days of the Hostage Crisis all over again.

/johnny

159 posted on 02/07/2013 9:03:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rollo tomasi

By the looks of that Truck, the Cops must have mistaken the two Women delivering Newspapers for Bonnie an Clyde.

Good thing CA restricts Gun Magazines to only ten rounds, oh wait...


160 posted on 02/07/2013 9:05:41 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Colorado Doug
Wonder how many booby traps have been set along that trail.

You go find out. I'll get coffee and donuts and meet you back here. ;)

/johnny

161 posted on 02/07/2013 9:09:44 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: al baby

162 posted on 02/07/2013 9:16:18 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mnehring

Wow, just imagine if the guy drove a White Ford Bronco instead of a Gray Nissan Titan.

If the don’t kill him, an L.A. Jury would let him go.


163 posted on 02/07/2013 9:20:42 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Imagine a few thousand bitter clingers who bolted, instead of waiting for the confiscation raids to reach them.


164 posted on 02/07/2013 9:22:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kickass Conservative

That appeared to be old fashioned scatter gun marks, maybe three or so...I’m just guessing by whats on the ground. I’m not really sure though...

But I do know him shooting innocent people, ought to be enough to make all recoil in disgust.

Hey...even in war, generally ya take prisoners and don’t just outright shoot them.....So...

Find him and kill this SOB....but JMO....


165 posted on 02/07/2013 9:43:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Travis McGee
Imagine a few thousand bitter clingers who bolted

Or the bitter clinger that wandered home and looked in on the household from somewhere and realized that something was wrong. And just stayed fielded.

I don't know when I'm going to be home, unless you make an appointment with me. If I don't know what I'm doing, OPFOR darn sure can't.

/johnny

166 posted on 02/07/2013 9:43:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You go find out. I'll get coffee and donuts and meet you back here. ;)

I'll bet that there's a whole lotta that going on out there.

167 posted on 02/07/2013 9:43:18 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Colorado Doug
When you only have 19 years to go to retirement... risks like hiking in the woods, without the gear or skills, in a blizzard to look for the crazy person that already shot a bunch of people....... Yeah...

I expect the fire in the belly has faded, but the fear really hasn't.

Asymetric warfare. It's all about psyops and one-off tricks.

/johnny

168 posted on 02/07/2013 9:53:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: dragnet2
Very possible.

It just reminded me of what the Bonnie and Clyde Car looked like after the Cops got done with it using their Thompsons and BAR’s.

I remember seeing the actual Death Car years ago at a Vegas Casino or some other venue of ill repute..

169 posted on 02/07/2013 9:59:53 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: dragnet2
I guess the CA Cops are trying to keep up with the NYPD.

The NYPD shot at a Perp in NYC and hit NINE People without hitting the guy they were “aiming” at. The Perp wasn’t even returning fire, unreal...

170 posted on 02/07/2013 10:07:18 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: ThomasThomas
He tried to get a boat in San Diego and failed.

Allegedly.

171 posted on 02/07/2013 10:13:21 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: mnehring
Wait, is that really the truck the cops shot up because they were confused with his truck? The truck on fire appeared to be a Ford extended cab. This is a Toyota Tacoma. Are they that dumb?

Gray Nissan Titan dualcab

They were confused because 1. LA cops 2. They saw a picture where it looked blue (as did the gray concrete it was standing on)

And yes, they are.

172 posted on 02/07/2013 10:25:52 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Kickass Conservative
This is what the ruthless drug cartels do....

They attempt or kill your kid, mom, grandma, dog and the family cow...On holiday gatherings yet.

They're pissed and throw terrorist level violent tantrums...Mideastern style.

AP: LAPD seen here late Thursday checking ID on a shopper who happened to look like the suspect.

173 posted on 02/07/2013 10:27:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Dorner had apparently switched plates on the truck, and the plate from the first Riverside shooting came back to an address in Torrance. Two LAPD detectives went to the address at 5:20am, roughly four hours after the Riverside officer was killed. On arrival, they spotted a vehicle driving toward them with lights out, and saw someone throw an object out the window in their direction. So.. middle of the night, at a residence associated in some unknown way with a cop killer, and having no idea by then whether he was still in the truck or some other vehicle he stole.

That’s the actual scenario. You can fault them for failing to realize that the object was a newspaper, but you really can’t fault them for the truck color issue because by that point, the guy could have switched vehicles. That does happen fairly frequently, you know.


174 posted on 02/07/2013 10:52:11 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg
That’s the actual scenario.

Thanks for that actual scenario. Do you have anything more concrete?

BTW, two trucks were shot at a few miles apart, which was the result of misidentifying the suspect vehicle and opening up on innocents.

175 posted on 02/07/2013 11:12:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ArmstedFragg

BTW, this was reportedly one of the targets of the suspect and a protection team was in place when the incident occurred with the females. But who knows.....


176 posted on 02/07/2013 11:18:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Brad's Gramma

As nuts as this guy is - we should be taking notes.

Might come in handy when the DHS comes to take away any guns that have not been registered and/or verify that there was a boating accident.

“Yeah - um, we don’t exactly feel comfortable knocking on gramma’s door.”


177 posted on 02/07/2013 11:21:22 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Two LAPD detectives went to the address at 5:20am, roughly four hours after the Riverside officer was killed. On arrival, they spotted a vehicle driving toward them with lights out, and saw someone throw an object out the window in their direction. .....

That’s the actual scenario


178 posted on 02/07/2013 11:56:24 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: dragnet2

The second incident, which was ten minutes after the ATC shooting, involved a pursuit by Torrance PD where shots were fired at the conclusion. There were no injuries in that one. I haven’t been able to determine much of anything about that one.


179 posted on 02/08/2013 12:00:55 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Info on 2nd shooting:

Prior to this there was radio traffic reporting a sighting of the suspect a few miles away.

“On Thursday, February 07, 2013, at approximately 5:15 a.m., uniformed officers of the Torrance Police Department heard shots fired coming from the area of Sunnyglen Park in the City of Torrance, in proximity to where members of the Los Angeles Police Department was providing protective services related to the regional law enforcement effort to capture murder suspect Christopher Dorner.
As Torrance Police Officers responded to the location, they observed a truck suddenly leaving the area matching a similar description of suspect Christopher Dorner’s vehicle. A Torrance Police patrol unit, occupied by two officers, encountered the black truck, collided with the vehicle, and an officer involved shooting occurred.
Both officers involved in the collision were not injured. The sole occupant and driver of the truck was not hit by gun fire and had no visible injuries at the time of the incident.”


180 posted on 02/08/2013 12:46:04 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Danny Horning escaped from prison in Arizona with just the clothes on his back about 20 years ago and evaded large-scale pursuit for two months.


181 posted on 02/08/2013 5:20:02 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lwoodham
I'm not buying mentally disturbed. I think he is just a normal liberal.

Agreed. A normal liberal, but doing what most of them only dream about doing. The only difference being he's after cops, not conservatives.
182 posted on 02/08/2013 5:40:15 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: BenLurkin

So is this manhunt, also a government practice run for attacking citizens? Asking for a friend.

/sarcasm


183 posted on 02/08/2013 5:53:18 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: 444Flyer

Per Big Bear scanner:

6:47 a.m. PT Reports of shots heard by resident in Forest Falls. “2 shots heard.”

Second call just in of hearing 2 shots ‘across the canyon’.

Forest Falls (population 950 + or -.)

Calls came from areaa’Highway 38 and Valley of the Falls.’


184 posted on 02/08/2013 6:59:23 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: 444Flyer

3rd call in reporting of shots heard in Forest Falls.


185 posted on 02/08/2013 7:08:41 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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Now being reported as ‘vehicle backfiring’.

(Understandable they had calls in. Resident’s have to be on edge living anywhere near Big Bear.)


186 posted on 02/08/2013 7:19:02 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: BenLurkin

Just have Barry declare him a jihadist and then Barry can
launch a drone strike. /sarc


187 posted on 02/08/2013 8:30:06 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I think his body will be found in the wilderness, a suicide
with three bullets in the back of his head.
188 posted on 02/08/2013 3:18:44 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Travis McGee
"He has manpads, like I have an Abrams tank."

He's almost certainly blowing smoke, but there was a 60 Minutes interview with the NYPD Chief back in September 2011 where the Chief let it slip that the NYPD had the capability to take down an airplane. In the days immediately following the interview, Chief Kelly and Bloomberg backpedaled, stating that capability consisted of firing a .50 sniper rifle from a helicopter. Needless to say, there was a lot of speculation that they probably had the capability to deploy at least a Stinger.

So, while I still find it extremely doubtful that Dorner has his hands on one, the thought that an NY or LAPD officer could gain access to one is not as remotely implausible as it might first seem.

Then (get your tinfoil ready), if you believe in goverment/media collaboration to gently float ideas into the public conscience and incrementally shift that Overton Window, there was that coincidental little news item from the Seattle gun buyback just over a week ago...


189 posted on 02/08/2013 7:14:44 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Colorado Doug

He was supposedly an expert with explosives.

If that is the case, that truck could have exploded in flames after he was 100 miles away.

Think about it.

He dropped his wallet in one place, his badge in another and his truck burned in another.

Can you imagine a street smart cop making so many mistakes?

They were not mistakes nor accidents.

Certainly we will not know until it is all over, but there is a really good chance that he is miles from there and stalking one of his targets.


190 posted on 02/08/2013 8:24:37 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: JRandomFreeper

And he’s just one man with a gun.

No wonder the Left is freaked out about “assault weapons”.


191 posted on 02/08/2013 8:36:34 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: old curmudgeon
They were not mistakes nor accidents.

I agree.
192 posted on 02/08/2013 8:45:27 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
You can fault them for failing to realize that the object was a newspaper, but you really can’t fault them for the truck color issue because by that point, the guy could have switched vehicles.

I fault them for being trigger happy morons.

193 posted on 02/08/2013 8:45:44 PM PST by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Dorner had apparently switched plates on the truck, and the plate from the first Riverside shooting came back to an address in Torrance. Two LAPD detectives went to the address at 5:20am, roughly four hours after the Riverside officer was killed. On arrival, they spotted a vehicle driving toward them with lights out, and saw someone throw an object out the window in their direction. So.. middle of the night, at a residence associated in some unknown way with a cop killer, and having no idea by then whether he was still in the truck or some other vehicle he stole.

Someone's telling porkies


194 posted on 02/10/2013 1:18:37 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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