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To: TurboZamboni

“You can’t have open borders in a welfare state.”

And, we have the welfare state. And while many of us, and Rand presumably, would like to eliminate the Welfare State that isn’t going to happen.

So what is left as a plausible solution is closing the borders and essentially ending immigration, particularly of people who are going to take more than they give. (Which statistics tell us is *most* of current immigrants)

I also agree with the comments made here that Libertarians don’t put enough emphasis on conserving tradition and culture. They are sort of the polar opposite of Marxists, both reduce man to homo-economicus, man the econonmic unit. To the Marxist collectivist economics solves all social problems. To the libertarian, free market economics solves all problems.

The truth is that there are many realms outside of economics that need to be attended to if one is going to have a healthy society.


41 posted on 03/12/2013 12:53:10 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black

All he has to do is say that we want the same controls on our border that the Mexicans have on theirs’.

Who could argue with that?


42 posted on 03/12/2013 12:54:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jack Black
So what is left as a plausible solution is closing the borders and essentially ending immigration, particularly of people who are going to take more than they give. (Which statistics tell us is *most* of current immigrants)

So, Rand Paul's plan to give Amnesty to 2 million Illegals(A.K.A. Democrat Voters) each and every year is a plausible solution?

You do realize you are on a conservative website devoted to conservative principles including NO AMNESTY for illegal Aliens?
49 posted on 03/12/2013 10:49:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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