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Will 'transgender rights' drive Catholics out of public schools?
Catholic News Agency ^ | 03/16/2013 | Mary Hasson

Posted on 03/17/2013 8:43:07 AM PDT by caldera599

The Massachusetts Board of Education recently issued formal “guidance” to the state’s public schools, telling them how to implement new laws protecting against gender identity discrimination. The Board of Education insists that schools must not only provide equal access to educational activities programs but also proactively “create a culture” that would make gender-nonconforming and transgender kids “feel safe, supported, and fully included.”

The result? Transgender children must be allowed to use the restrooms and locker rooms of the opposite sex, if they so choose. Teachers will “work with” other students who object to the invasion of privacy, helping them over come their “discomfort” and embrace the agenda of tolerance. In addition, schools must “eliminate” gendered policies such as dress codes (e.g., rules requiring girls, but not boys, to wear dresses to prom, or traditions that dress boys in blue graduation robes while girls wear white) and classroom management strategies that divide children by gender (e.g., a boys’ line and a girls’ line for the water fountain). Transgender children will have the right to insist on being called by any name or pronoun they choose, regardless of its biological mismatch. And other students must go along with it or face “discipline.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: argentina; catholic; conclave; homosexualagenda; lunacy; massachusetts; popefrancis; romancatholicism; transgender

1 posted on 03/17/2013 8:43:07 AM PDT by caldera599
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To: caldera599

Joel 3:10


2 posted on 03/17/2013 8:47:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: caldera599

If there is ONE person here on FR that doesn’t think we are in END TIMES, please come forward and tell us why you don’t think so.


3 posted on 03/17/2013 8:48:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy

Technically, once we acquired the power to wipe out all life on the planet, that was the temporal border after which the planet had crossed into the end times. Now we are coming to the point where the “transgressors are come to the full” per Daniel 8:23, and the time of the “king of fierce countenance, understanding dark sentences” is just around the corner.


4 posted on 03/17/2013 8:55:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: caldera599

Get your kids out of public schools. Don’t let these people have access to their minds or their hearts. We should work to reform the schools, and it may happen over time, but your kids and your grandkids only have now. They can’t wait for reforms that may happen a decade or two down the road.

Setting up private schools for their kids should be job one for churches. More and more are doing it, and thats good and necessary. More need to be doing it. It does little good to put these kids in Sunday school and then hand them over to the depraved and demented 5 days a week for instruction.


5 posted on 03/17/2013 8:55:54 AM PDT by marron
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To: caldera599
1. Increased usage of drugs by expectant mothers and chemicals in our environment is leading to more and more cases of mutant humans that are neither male nor female.

2. The mutants are tolerated rather than money spent to reverse the mutations.

3. Meanwhile the transhumanists are working toward a future where we can upload our consciousnesses into whatever bodies we want. We will become "beings" without sex, race, nationality, ethnicity, etc.

4. More and more people will choose to behave in androgynous ways regardless of whether they were "born that way". People will be "boys" on MWF and "girls" on TThSa and whatever on Sundays.

5. We will all learn to shed all of our "biases" in order to prepare for our transhuman future.

Isn't that special.

6 posted on 03/17/2013 8:56:50 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: caldera599
Many of us abandoned the public schools years ago for this and other reasons. What is surprising is that more have not fled.

The public schools have chosen allow the classrooms to sink to the level of their most unruly and unteachable students. There are still a lot of good kids in the public schools, but the worst students set the tone.

7 posted on 03/17/2013 8:57:16 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: caldera599

#1 Catholics in America have become socially liberal and #2 I quit sending my kids to Catholic school after years and years of battling to keep our school focused on religion and staying affordable to parishioners/Catholics. They decided they were a prep school and wanted to be inclusive to all. The Catholic schools in this country need to get back to providing an affordable Catholic education to Catholics.


8 posted on 03/17/2013 9:00:10 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: caldera599

Wait until you see the “sex ed” program they’re instituting in Colorado.

It’s total indoctrination, to corrupt our kids.

The Dem’s had to be embarrassed into exempting K-3.

They want to create unsuspecting victims for the child rapists in our schools.


9 posted on 03/17/2013 9:00:33 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: caldera599

I hate to use kids this way, but I think that CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is the only option. Basically, as a revolt, have your boys tell the school that they really think they’re girls and thus will play girls sports and use the girls locker room. If enough kids do that, they will have respond and end this crap. I’m thinking they can manage it if it’s only a handful of kids, but if it’s the entire varsity football team all DEMANDING that they be treated as women, then state will have to respond.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 9:10:52 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: caldera599

Biological mismatch.

Give me a frigging break.


11 posted on 03/17/2013 9:35:57 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: conservative cat
They decided they were a prep school and wanted to be inclusive to all. The Catholic schools in this country need to get back to providing an affordable Catholic education to Catholics.

Same in our area. The nuns and priests are gone, and replaced by teachers who mostly do not want to offend and are products of the State educational training schools and requirements. The Catholic high schools, but dint of the fact they are selective (and expensive), have kept academic standards high, but I don't see that even that in the Catholic grammar schools.

At our local Parish grammar school, not only are the teachers soft/squishy on the faith, but the teachers seem all to be rather tired-out matrons, on the verge of retirement. Catholic school can't come anywhere close to competing with our local public school on good salaries and even better benefits, so I understand the challenges that creates as well.

12 posted on 03/17/2013 9:36:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

How do you indicate that you are trans-whatever? Can you imagine some teenage boys claiming to be trans, and getting permission to use the girls bathroom and locker room?

We have lost any semblance of common sense, haven’t we???


13 posted on 03/17/2013 9:40:10 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: caldera599

What about the muslims as well. Are they required to be tolerant of boys in the girls locker rooms?


14 posted on 03/17/2013 9:46:38 AM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: marron
We should work to reform the schools,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Government K-12 schooling is a godless socialist-entitlement.

In the history of humankind when has it been possible to reform a socialist-entitlement, single-payer, compulsory-use, GODLESS, police-threat funded, and price fixed monopoly cartel? Government schooling is the absolute living definition of **all** of this!

Conclusion: Government socialist-entitlement schooling must be shut down!

How?

There are entire counties ( and even whole states) where, IF CHRISTIANS AND CONSERVATIVES REMOVED THEIR KIDS, the entire socialist-entitlement schooling system would collapse! Even in the blue states most of these states could completely eliminate government schooling except for the inner cities.

Shutting down government socialist-entitlement schooling **is** completely possible, if conservatives and Christians can be convinced to give up their tuition-free BABYSITTING!

Yeah! I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit! Why is it that other conservatives fail to see the threat to their children and to our nation's freedom, and persist in believing that socialist-entitlement, GODLESS, and price-fixed monopoly cartel schools can be “fixed”? What foolishness!

15 posted on 03/17/2013 9:56:39 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Senator_Blutarski
"What is surprising is that more have not fled."

It's part of the old "Where did we go wrong" symptom. And too, many don't believe that they have gone wrong when they put un-Godly people into the world. Not their problem, you see?

16 posted on 03/17/2013 10:00:12 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: conservative cat

The Catholic High School in my area is $12,000 dollars a year for tuition,plus books and uniforms.


17 posted on 03/17/2013 10:17:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: caldera599

Will ‘transgender rights’ drive Catholics out of public schools?

Something had better do it. Pope John Paul II reminded the faithful in an encyclical that parents are the primary educators of their children (he didn’t use the term “duh!” in the title)

Parents get your children out of there. They are the future of this country.

Mothers quit your jobs and get home, no one is there to take care of it.


18 posted on 03/17/2013 10:36:54 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Will ‘transgender rights’ drive Catholics out of public schools?

Jesus said something about millstones and child abuse.

But no one gives up free babysitting.

19 posted on 03/17/2013 10:42:50 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Venturer

The Catholic School in your area might be worse than the public school, as it may be teaching lessons antithetical to the teachings of the Church, but in the name of Catholicism.

The Catholic HS in my area teaches a classical education by teachers who do not go against the teachings of the Church.

How do I know? I ask the kids every day what happened today, and eventually I get them to talk. I never betray their trust for any reason, for fear they won’t talk to me again - if I do it’s CIA level stealth. And I make it my business to know the basic tenets of the Church.

I use their college fund to send them there and they know their college is going to be paid for by them.


20 posted on 03/17/2013 10:43:19 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Ann Archy
We've survived trials and tribulations for hundreds/thousands of years. Right now, things are easy. In the past - black plague, cholera, famine, Mt Toba volcano, more oppression, feudalism, no antibiotics.

1840's Ireland. That really did look like the end times.

21 posted on 03/17/2013 10:53:58 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes,we have.

When I was a kid this s**t would not fly. Uh,uh.


22 posted on 03/17/2013 10:59:10 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: conservative cat

Hrm? I teach for one - and we keep it pretty affordable compared with all the other schools out there!

Where do you live?


23 posted on 03/17/2013 11:17:23 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: stanne

Yes, same here - we do a classical education as well, and we accept everyone, Catholic, not Catholic, but if you’re going to show up you’re going to get a Catholic education! No whining.


24 posted on 03/17/2013 11:18:20 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Catholics and nn Catholics, but no whining about the Catholic teaching, it’s a Catholic school.


25 posted on 03/17/2013 11:44:28 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
I use their college fund to send them there and they know their college is going to be paid for by them.

They'll likely be able to get good academic scholarships because of the preparation from high school. Our older sons attended a very good Catholic High School, which was somewhat in the Classical tradition. Our oldest got a full ride at a State School, then went on to Law school. He was never really challenged by any of his higher education until his second year in Law School. He did very well.

Our #2 son attended Carnegie Mellon, and finished in 3 - 1/2 years, with Honors, and a double major in Computer Science and Psychology. He didn't get a scholarship, but got grants because we had another in college at the same time, even though we were never asked if the other kid was on scholarships. But with the #2 son it was the same thing regarding difficulty of the work; it was not much of a challenge for him. Their high school prepared them well.

26 posted on 03/17/2013 11:44:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: G Larry

Heard somethng about this but need specifics. Got a link? Is this the program invented and pushed by the guy that owns Proflowers? (Can’t think of his name -— Poelis or Soelis, gay congressman).


27 posted on 03/17/2013 11:56:03 AM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: caldera599

What’s wrong with people that they can’t accept the way they came into this world? They can’t accept the way nature made them. It is a perversion to mess with the sex you were given. I feel really sorry for them. They are as mixed up as the homosexuals.


28 posted on 03/17/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SuziQ
My observation is that they learn a lot in high school and that this is way underrated. Ours have no time to get into trouble as they are very busy studying and rewarded for it by all. They have competition and positive peer pressure.

My sense comes from my parents’ having been educated like this when they were in HS. They learned Greek, Latin, Literature, history and science and logic. They didn't focus on or put college above their HS learning.

I know kids today can do this, people don't change in that regard, though libs push the misconception of evolution to this extent. They are wrong; they certainly don't have proof, they don't present it.

Kids are starting to focus on jobs, having witnessed their older acquaintances struggling for money, jobs, college, debt and having no communication skills-no real education. It is not attractive.

29 posted on 03/17/2013 12:19:21 PM PDT by stanne
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To: caldera599
Actually didn't wait: just started my little girl in a Catholic school because the public school nearby has huge discipline problems with the "differently-abled" kids that they're forced to include in the same classes, the huge class sizes, and the general mess Bush's "No Child Left Behind" caused (teaching to standardized tests at the exclusion of everything else).

My daughter's happy as a lark now and really cute in her uniform and I don't have to sweat the next round of idiocy forced on our public schools.

30 posted on 03/17/2013 12:24:07 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Western WA. We are more affordable than some private schools, but they considered them their competition for students instead of trying to bring in Catholic students from the public schools. Our personal school didn’t care whether they recruited in parish or even Catholic over non. This is a fact- I was involved behind the scenes and unsuccessful in changing things.


31 posted on 03/17/2013 1:08:55 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: squarebarb

>http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=124342<

This should provide details necessary to evaluate the sex ed agenda in Colorado.


32 posted on 03/17/2013 3:06:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Darren McCarty

NONE of those things, other than the famine, were MAN-MADE.....all this GAY stuff and ABORTION is because of people’s actions!!


33 posted on 03/17/2013 5:26:11 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Darren McCarty

NONE of those things, other than the famine, were MAN-MADE.....all this GAY stuff and ABORTION is because of people’s actions!!


34 posted on 03/17/2013 5:26:45 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: caldera599; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; ...
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35 posted on 03/17/2013 5:34:46 PM PDT by narses
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To: marron
Get your kids out of public schools. Don’t let these people have access to their minds or their hearts.

And be watchful of your private and parochial schools. They are not perfect either.

36 posted on 03/17/2013 5:40:39 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: conservative cat

I am sorry to hear that. We take everyone that we can fit in and try to hire additional staff as necessary to accommodate the growth.


37 posted on 03/17/2013 5:41:44 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
". . . compared with all the other schools out there!"

That's really not the issue since I bet the majority of folks can't afford Catholic Schools at half the current rates. An extra $120 a week or better per child just isn't in the cards for people who don't have any disposible income to begin with.

38 posted on 03/17/2013 6:18:58 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: caldera599
Transgender children must be allowed to use the restrooms and locker rooms of the opposite sex, if they so choose.

Jeez, I wish they had that rule when I was in high school. Instead we had to sneak in or buy Playboy...

39 posted on 03/21/2013 10:00:50 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Ann Archy

If there is ONE person here on FR that doesn’t think we are in END TIMES...

http://www.patburt.com/


40 posted on 11/26/2013 12:07:18 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

What gets me is that we’re upsetting the whole society over a micro percentage of the population.

When I was in highschool, I can remember exactly ONE sexually confused person out of 7 grades of people.


41 posted on 11/26/2013 12:13:17 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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