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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Rove does have a point about Palin’s abandoning her office. I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.


7 posted on 03/17/2013 7:29:41 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
"I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step."

So, does that make you the king of substantiation? I suppose you are the same type that believes that we never made it to the moon, just because you were never there. Or maybe that the sinking of the Titanic was just a fable until they actually found the ship.

22 posted on 03/17/2013 7:44:20 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: vette6387
you you you... your feelings.

Are you living under a rock..Huffington Post is missing you.

24 posted on 03/17/2013 7:46:11 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: vette6387

how about the stories of several “ethics” lawsuites filed against her and her husband,by democrat activists, all thrown out but she had to pay for all legal work - by Alaska state law. At the time she resigned her legal bills where said to be over 300K.


25 posted on 03/17/2013 7:47:24 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: vette6387
...but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.

Then, in all honesty, you weren't paying attention.

Under Alaskan state law, the governor is vulnerable to certain legal actions -- but the state could not involve itself in the governor's defense. A number of frivolous suits had been brought, accordingly.

As a private citizen, she had access to the protection of libel laws and could set up a legal defense fund.

Remaining the governor would have driven the Palins into bankruptcy and, at the same time, handcuffed the state's policy machinery.

28 posted on 03/17/2013 7:50:42 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: vette6387

More on Palin’s Resignation
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/07/08/more-on-palins-resignation

Still no leads in Wasilla church arson (Sara Palins Church)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2398737/posts

Lets get something straight, Sarah Palin did NOT “quit”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2530520/posts


29 posted on 03/17/2013 7:51:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: vette6387

The reason she left was largely due to the phony ethical complaints that the state of Alaska had to respond to and that cost Alaska $$$$$. It also practically defunded the Palin family. She probably felt like much of her term was done she basically had less than a year and a half left in her term so she could say she did it to save Alaska $$$$$ which it did. I personally made a point of following the Alaska media after the 2008 election to follow what was going on up there because one knew that the dem party would target her using any means neccessary to destroy her. The phony ethical complaints which cost money to defend and respond to was tactic #1. A perfect example was she would go out of state to a governors meeting and some leftist somewhere would file an ethics complaint saying she was not attending to state business by being out of state. It would have been nice if the nat’l republican party would have done something to defend Palin on the political hit job by the left but they did nothing. So Palin has a choice. Does she spend endless amounts of time dealing with these phony ethical complaints which were literally never going to end. If fact there were phony ethical complaints still going on even after she left office. And there is ample evidence that high up operatiuves in the dem party were pulling strings to do this to Palin. So should Palin stay if the govornorship and have her personal wealth defunded by quite frankly liberal facists or does she resign since most of what she had on her agenda was larely done (pipeline etc..). The left thought for sure her career was over when she resigned and all she’s done is arguably be the most influential republican in helping the republicans win the house in 2010 and of course sell about 4 million more books than most liberal writers will ever sell. Well that’s my take on it. If she runs in 2016 she’ll obviously will need to have an answer to respond to that question but that’s generally how I see it.


38 posted on 03/17/2013 8:13:33 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: vette6387; All

Rove does have a point about Palin’s abandoning her office. I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.


No, Rove has no points in this matter. Rove and the RNC stood by and watched without lifting a finger. Meanwhile Rove backs the GOPe and tries to screw over the base. Rove is what Mark Levin calls “syphilis on the body politic”.

Hearsay? Hasn’t made it clear? Not to your satisfaction? What in the Frack do you need? A note from her mommy? Sheesh! Been under a rock for the last few years? She spells it out clearly in her book and Bannon spells it out very clearly in the documentary “The Undefeated”.

1. Nearly 600k in legal bills,

2. Spending her time fending off FOIA requests (aka: 24,000 emails and personal information). Lets not forget the email hacking.

3. Countless bogus ethics complaints from the “Alaskan Mudflats,” a group who used false names on their complaints, made stuff up and suffered NO PENALTY for false accusations. They openly admitted that their goal was to paralyze and bankrupt her.

In one complaint, prosecuted by a lawyer who worked on Obama’s team, an ethics investigation was initiated against her legal defense fund. It doesn’t get worse than that.

At current projections, if she stayed, she was looking at over a million dollars in legal bills. Any help from the GOP? Nope. Any word from the GOP to tell the state senators to help? Nope. Any support from the right wing talking heads at FOX? Nope. The only help came from her supporters in the lower 48 and a few talk radio hosts (not to mention liberal lawyer Alan Dershowitz).

Gabby Giffords shooting? All those GOP superstars ran into the tall grass. She leaves office? Only snickers from Rove and company. She helps conservatives in 2010 and 2012 and the “smart people” tell her to get lost. Yeah, I’m really feeling the love from Rove and his sycophants.

...and of course from vette6387’s recent post.

4. The Alaska statehouse locked her out of any passage of future bills/plans she wanted to introduce. Dems were told by the DNC that if they helped Palin, they would get primaried big time and all help cut off. Pubs were told to stay away from Palin so as to return the good old days of the CBC (corrupt bastards club, which Palin help curtail in her governorship).

Had she stayed, no doubt people would complain about all the ethics complaints, her legal debts and how she couldn’t do anything in that statehouse in her last 18 months. Her help in the 2010 and 2012 elections would be non-existent and I’m sure Rove would find something new to bitch about (they always do because they such good whores after all).

5. Fire bombing her church. Countless harassment. Death threats.

Too many people on the right suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. They are so whipped by pop culture and MSM sneers that they sit down and shut up to the point of surrender. In time, such wimps get programed that since “Rove/GOPe/Hollywood/MSM have issues with (name of conservative) then surely it must be true (whimper...whimper). As a result the base “settles” for the “safe” choice which often screws us in the end. Mitt only got a taste of the Palin treatment and he folded like a cheap suit.

Palin isn’t good enough for ya? Trust me bucko, when your guy/gal goes through the shredder, don’t go cryin to us. Don’t go complaining when gates of Mordor open up on them.

And even still, after all the crap Palin’s received, she still fights, engages in POP CULTURE and rallies the base. I can’t say that of the GOP these days.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 8:14:22 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: vette6387

Frivolous politically motivated lawsuits that were threatening to bankrupt her, including one that went after her because she wore a carhart jacket in public. Shortly after she left office, they changed the laws that allowed such lawsuits. Now, are you satisfied? It wouldn’t have taken much research to find out. Are you aware that her church was firebombed? The media kept that quiet, too. If you want to know the real skinny, you can’t depend on Katie Couric and Jon Stewart.


49 posted on 03/17/2013 8:41:13 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: vette6387
Agreed.

But Rove is a punk.

50 posted on 03/17/2013 8:43:25 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: vette6387

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52 posted on 03/17/2013 8:44:41 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: vette6387

No politician has faced the adversity that Palin has, strength, leadership, and indestructibility is what she is rightfully known for.

Personally, I think that she had no choice but to resign, to fight her total destruction at the hands of the media, the GOP, and the democrat party, all of the lower 48 states, who all lived and controlled public opinion, thousands of miles from her Governor’s office.

There is no way that Palin could fight the national media, the national Democratic party and the national Romney/Rockefeller branch of the GOP from the governor’s office in Alaska, she could not have traveled to the states and helped restructure the GOP in a more conservative mode, she could not have fought the Obama administration and Washington DC, from the remote distance of Alaska.

Alaska and Hawaii are not the places where a sitting Governor can make and maintain a prominent national presence in the New York, Washington DC, dominated mainland, and if you are the person that the mainland media has launched the most vicious, carefully coordinated media attack against in history, then you and your conservative movement would die on the vine in remote and distant Hawaii or Alaska.


58 posted on 03/17/2013 8:50:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: vette6387

Rove does have a point about Palin’s abandoning her office. I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.


You... must have a lot of money.. Sarah didn’t...
She was 500K+ in debt to lawyers.. and the attacks were continuing.. not only attacks on her personally but attacks on her children as well..

So many attacks she spent much of her time defending against them..
Makes it hard to deal with the fascist oil companys(in Alaska) when you are so busy with other things..
Which was the point of the attacks..

You are not too smart are you.?... easy to find this information..
If you have a mind to do it..

Sarah pulled the rug out from underneath the bastards..
Genius actually... her Lt. Governor was also a capable and good guy.. who took over..

She was also an intelligent and honest girl from her youth..
I personally know people that knew her then and now..
They all have nothing but good things to say about her.. as a person..


63 posted on 03/17/2013 9:00:34 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: vette6387
Not that anyone needs to "substantiate ....enough to satisfy you" but I will mention it again here.

Sarah has written extensively about it in her books but there were so many lawsuits filed against her as Governor, mostly by outside agitators but some Alaskan libs as a way to shut her up and shut her down.

That was not the only problem but was the emphasis, as she put it, that serving as Governor, a mere state employee, the State of Alaska was forced to hire legal defense for each and every trivial thing - and they were all ultimately thrown out of court but not before they were adjudicated (meaning going through the motions, hearings, evidence taking, depositions taking and finally briefs filing) that it was beginning to look as though these lawsuits could potentially bankrupt the State of Alaska, a state that had been heavily in debt, which was why Sarah ran for Governor in the first place.

Her work was not only to get the state out of debt but to get a surplus for when hard times hit.

Sarah was proud of her state no longer being in debt an she was also proud to being reelected by an 80% approval rating, try that on Obama!

She made the personally painful decision to step away as Governor so that the state was no longer responsible to defend her as an state employee, if she weren't Governor, thus no money would be spent because she became a target for every kook.

She also needed a job paying more than Governor paid to help pay her family's portion of some of these trivial lawsuits, to supplant the income she and Todd's fishing business could afford, without bankrupting their family.

She was able to do just that by writing and speaking engagements but only after leaving as Governor.

Lastly, some of the first things that Sarah did upon becoming Governor, was to sell the state plane that cost the state thousands and had been for the use for the Governor only. She said that the state couldn't afford it, afford to fly one person around to speaking engagements within the state.

Secondly, she let the full time chefs go telling the people that her family had been preparing their own meals and could simply continue to do so but hire extra help when official state dinners would be served but that she wouldn't keep a full time staff devoted to preparing and serving to her and her family - that they were no better than the other citizens in her state and the citizens didn't need to be taxed to have someone cook for just her and her family.

Sarah's sense of pride of accomplishment would have been tarnished had she stayed and fought on as Governor, knowing all the while, the very people she had desired to serve were having their taxes squandered to fight frivolous lawsuits against her merely because she had decided to run for the position of Vice President.

I, for one, admire anyone who steps away from a position when they realize that they are a target for every kook to sue, only to make the taxpayers defend them against every kook's lawsuit.

Hope this settles some of your questions about the real reasons for Sarah's decision to leave as Governor of Alaska.

70 posted on 03/17/2013 9:21:45 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: vette6387

Maybe you should do a little reading up on what lead her to leave office(quit if you like) before you post such a stupid comment.


99 posted on 03/18/2013 3:39:37 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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