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Steubenville rape prosecutor confirms threats to her, her family
Trib Today ^ | 03/18/2013 | staff

Posted on 03/18/2013 9:52:27 PM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles

Edited on 03/19/2013 4:27:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

STEUBENVILLE - Jefferson County Prosecutor Jane Hanlin and her family had to leave town during the juvenile rape trial because of threats made against both her and her family.

Sunday evening, Hanlin confirmed that threats had been made, and she found them to be credible. Hanlin said there were instances of threats before, but the number of threats of a specific nature grew.

"As the trial date grew closer, we received a number of them that seemed to be more credible than others," Hanlin said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; mua; ohio; steubenville; threats
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To: expat1000

You have a hard time believing something?

Does that offer any insight into the actual facts of what happened?

No.

My take would be...and to me this is common sense...a person who is so impaired they are like “falling down drunk” could very well realize that they are being raped, attacked in ways other than rape, whatever the case, while at the same time they can’t muster the normal brain cells to respond appropriately and in self-defense.

Can’t get into her mind and know what she knew at the time, but knowing is different from being capable of doing something appropriately defensive about it.

Ever heard of the date rape drug?

Hmmmmm?


41 posted on 03/19/2013 12:24:22 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: jpsb

Thank you, I agree with your comments.

My question was to the poster who made the comment that the girl was a slut. I was asking him/her how they came to that conclusion.

Of course these boys deserve far more than the punishment they are getting, the whole thing makes me sick! And as another said; this crap happens far more than we ever hear of.


42 posted on 03/19/2013 12:27:59 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: txrangerette

Don’t get your panties in a twist. Pulling in speculation about drugs out of thin air offers insights into your defensiveness only.


43 posted on 03/19/2013 12:30:33 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: babygene
However... The girl was a slut IMHO.

Maybe, maybe not. (I don't know her, and reputations are fragile things oft destroyed by mere rumor).

Regardless, she has the right to remain unmolested, and that right should be presumed in the absence of her express desires otherwise.

One of the last defenses (or perhaps the first) of the rapist is to call a woman a slut, which relies on social condemnation to disregard that sluts have rights, too.

44 posted on 03/19/2013 12:44:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I find it amazing that this is the culture the left desires


45 posted on 03/19/2013 12:46:09 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: fella

it is so progressive to blame the victim these days

It should be amazing, shouldn’t it?


46 posted on 03/19/2013 12:46:54 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SatinDoll
We should be rearing our boys to be the kind of men who are protective of the weaker members of our society, not men who take advantage of the weaker.

Bingo. Bravo. Raise sheepdogs, not wolves.

47 posted on 03/19/2013 12:47:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
"My question was to the poster who made the comment that the girl was a slut."

IMHO no 16 year old girl is a "slut". I think it takes many years of slutty behavior to earn that title. 16 year olds often make bad decisions and turn out fine. Hopefully she will too.

48 posted on 03/19/2013 12:50:15 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: expat1000; txrangerette

Nót really. Competency is an important legal concept and these exact scenarios are a familiar topic in crim law. Tort too. Bottom line, its about consent. If a person can’t or won’t give consent, for any reason, its rape. Drugs and alcohol are well known to impair judgement, and without capacity for ordinary good judgment, you can’t assign consent. This is true even if the impairment is just being a little too young. You can have a fully aware person who actually wants to participate, but the law will deem their judgment impaired by their youth, making consent a legal impossibility. Statutory rape. So this is why the defense was trying to find some point on the drunkenness spectrum where he could claim she was not yet impaired. He needed that to get consent. Apparently that strategy was unsuccessful.


49 posted on 03/19/2013 1:04:27 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: expat1000

They were stepping on her hair when they were carrying her, and there was no reaction to that pain.


50 posted on 03/19/2013 1:05:43 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Thanks for the clarification.


51 posted on 03/19/2013 1:12:37 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000
I don’t know if she is a slut or not, but I’ve got a really hard time believing she (or anyone) was so drunk she did not know she was being raped.

I have seen 'power drinkers' get stuporous pretty quick, and if they were doing shots of something more potent than beer or really chugging them down (or she was being encouraged to do so), it is entirely possible. Of course, that is flirting with alcohol poisoning, but the point is that put enough alcohol in anyone (or even toss in a roofie) and whoever will be lucky to remember where they are when they come to. Inexperienced drinkers who have not built a tolerance are even more likely to overdo it, while the long term heavy drinker can go into blackout mode and maintain the appearance of being functional (more or less) and have no memory of events afterwards.

I have seen both.

52 posted on 03/19/2013 1:47:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: expat1000

The use of drugs is not speculation pulled out of then air.
They even know who sold the drugs, they know this same crime has been pulled before and they know of other victims.
Because they did not have “proof” they chose to characterize the girl as “drunk”. She was drugged and had she not vomitted several times it might have been fatal.

What was revealed at the trial is a small fraction of what actually happened.

A truly despicable cast of characters.


53 posted on 03/19/2013 1:48:40 AM PDT by There's millions of'em (Tis a relentless battle for freedom)
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To: GeronL
I find it amazing that this is the culture the left desires

I'm not so sure they recognize the monster they have created, but would wager they would fantasize about being the football players rather than the victim.

The problem for them is that while "If it feels good, do it" may be a mantra of theirs, they can't control the beast that is a society unrestrained by social codes or morals. That creature will turn on them, and then they'll wail.

54 posted on 03/19/2013 1:53:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

The girl had stated that she wanted to “do” the entire team. So yes, she was by no means a paragon of moral virtue. It also raises the question that if she’d wanted to do the team why does it matter if she were conscious or not?

Please note, I still think these boys have the morals of dogs. They should go to jail but I don’t see her as much better.


55 posted on 03/19/2013 2:22:38 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: SatinDoll
There is no excuse...

Agreed.

Real men are taught not to take advantage of those who are weaker than them.

A thinking, compassionate, self-controlled individual would not rape a drunk or incapacitated girl,... period.

56 posted on 03/19/2013 3:03:18 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles; rintense; Sir Francis Dashwood; GSD Lover; RPTMS

Judging from how many threads about this rape you’ve commented on, blaming the victim with such anger and hate, I’m guessing you were somehow involved in this rape or have been accused and/or convicted of rape.


57 posted on 03/19/2013 3:14:28 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: expat1000

What I’ve read is that she doesn’t remember anything after being picked up in a car by 2 of her rapists (one of whom was good friends with her ex-boyfriend who had just a couple weeks earlier tweeted that he was going to destroy her) and the boyfriend of the girl who talked her into going to the party (the guy who videotaped her being raped and sodomized in the back seat of the car later that night).

I’m not an expert on such things since I’ve never been drunk, but can a person really get drunk within a minute’s time? I also don’t know how date-rape drugs work; would she experience sudden loss of consciousness like that?


58 posted on 03/19/2013 3:20:02 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Politicalmom

She participated in a case where she and her actions were part of what was on trial.

Sounds sort of like Kagan and Sotomayor. I guess if they can get away with not recusing themselves as judges in the highest court in the land, then why should a mere prosecutor show integrity?


59 posted on 03/19/2013 3:27:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles
There was no way in hell they were not going to be found guilty. They were lynched.

No. Had they been "lynched", they would be dead. That's what the word means.

That would have been justice. Anything less is a slap on the wrist.

60 posted on 03/19/2013 3:28:15 AM PDT by meadsjn
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