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To: Solson
Consent requires being aware and having full faculty. The girl, CLEARLY, WAS NOT IN THAT STATE.

Do you have a comprehension problem?

That definition of "consent" is precisely what I dispute. Were that definition consistently applied, literally *every* instance of a woman having sex after drinking could be defined as "rape."

102 posted on 03/19/2013 5:01:53 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

Or of a man having sex after drinking...

I don’t think that impaired JUDGMENT is the same thing as impaired AWARENESS. The latter is a state of consciousness.


107 posted on 03/19/2013 5:18:58 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: papertyger
That definition of "consent" is precisely what I dispute. Were that definition consistently applied, literally *every* instance of a woman having sex after drinking could be defined as "rape."

Yours is an interesting semantic argument, and might be the crux of an interesting case in the future... but in THIS case, the issue is so incredibly and clearly within ANY definition of the term that it is a moot point here. She was unconscious. Fingering her, slapping an erect penis on her hip, standing on her hair, and having multiple boys have sex with her... all while she was non-responsive and basically comatose, all being taped and photographed... is well beyond any possible argument about consent. She gave none. They did what they wanted with the warm body, and passed it around. She was unable to consent, resist, or have any input in the equation. Even if she was the biggest slut in the state and seemed like she might like getting treated like that and having it posted online, their actions were STILL clearly rape. Their punishment was light and generous (although I still stand opposed to the lunacy of lifetime registered sex offender status, in any case).

108 posted on 03/19/2013 5:25:48 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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