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Moving beyond ban on assault weapons (barf alert)
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 21 mar 2013

Posted on 03/21/2013 5:35:00 AM PDT by rellimpank

Even after the horrific slayings of schoolchildren in Connecticut in December, it was probably inevitable that an effort to ban military-style assault weapons would come to naught.

There was widespread skepticism that the ban would do much good, especially since so many of these guns already are on the streets and in homes. There was no Republican support, and even red state Democrats were reluctant to back the measure.

We still think there is value in sending a message that assault weapons and extended magazines are dangerous and unnecessary, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has to count votes and made a wise decision this week to focus on the possible.

Now his goal is to pass bipartisan legislation to make gun trafficking a federal crime, boost funding for school security and toughen the background check program. We'd also like to see a ban on the sale of ammunition on the Internet.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment

1 posted on 03/21/2013 5:35:00 AM PDT by rellimpank
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2 posted on 03/21/2013 5:38:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rellimpank

(There was widespread skepticism that the ban would do much good)

Even liberals are saying what big hypocrites they are!


3 posted on 03/21/2013 5:39:14 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: rellimpank

Summary: “We failed to exploit people’s emotions to ram through our top totalitarian goals, but we’re still going to try and push to get some of the lesser ones, despite the fact that none of them would have stopped the event we are supposedly so devastated over.”


4 posted on 03/21/2013 5:39:41 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: rellimpank

‘horrific” is sooooooooooooooooooo overused, I want to cringe when these numbskulls use it to describe everything


5 posted on 03/21/2013 5:43:00 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: winner3000

(There was widespread skepticism that the ban would do much good)

Even liberals are saying what big hypocrites they are!


Yep! Even Ricky Holder’s Social Justice Dept. acknowledged that undeniable, inconvenient fact.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 5:44:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: winner3000

Ask any liberal -

what do they want to do after citizens are disarmed
that they know they can’t do before they are disarmed?

And don’t accept “that’s absurd”, because there has to be a reason to disarm the people, or there wouldn’t be a push to disarm the people.


7 posted on 03/21/2013 5:46:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rellimpank
Obama, Feinstein and crew are quickly learning the lesson, “Those that live by the low information voter, die by the low information voter.” The problem with counting on the low information voter to push your legislation over the finish line, is that they have attention spans that rarely last more than a week or two and disappear as soon as another “shiny object” is dangled in front of them. Yes the gun grabbers managed to get them all lathered up for a couple weeks after Newtown, but as soon as the pictures were gone off the TV screen so was the outrage and passion to do something.
8 posted on 03/21/2013 5:48:30 AM PDT by apillar
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To: rellimpank

“Even after the horrific slayings of schoolchildren in Connecticut in December”

The article lost all credibility right there. Why are 18 deaths in Connecticut horrific but the murder of 3000 children every day by the liberals in their abortionaries not horrific?

Until they start working against the murder of the unborn they have no right to talk about anything else.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 5:52:44 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: apillar

—yep—and as others have pointed out, this isn’t over yet -—they’ll be back-—


10 posted on 03/21/2013 5:54:39 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank
Now his goal is to pass bipartisan legislation to make gun trafficking a federal crime,

It already is a fed crime. Transfering firearms accross state borders without using a federal firearms licensee is against the law.

I guess we need to make it really, really against the law.

11 posted on 03/21/2013 5:54:51 AM PDT by umgud
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


12 posted on 03/21/2013 5:55:12 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Travis McGee

unknown guns?

what does that mean?


13 posted on 03/21/2013 5:59:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MrB

done this with liberals or Dem voters a few times .

If you are in bed next to your wife, the kids are in bed and two guys break in and come at you with a knife, at , gun what ever weapon they have, what do you do?
Would you not prefer to have a gun or let your wife have a gun to defend herself, yourself and defend your kids when you have 5 seconds before you are bashed to death or stabbed to death .

Always and I mean always get er er er HUH er er yes but we should ban guns


14 posted on 03/21/2013 6:03:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Probably means a through and through gunshot wound, with no weapon recovered. Most are probably pistols, but they didn’t find a pistol bullet or recover a gun.


15 posted on 03/21/2013 6:05:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: apillar

yesterday a freeper put an article on here about a couple shooting back at two robbers at their home, lots of rounds exchanged and it went well for the elderly couple.

7 rounds in a mag would not have worked then, neither a gun ban.Infact Feinstein and co would have let this couple die along with so many in this country if they got their way.


16 posted on 03/21/2013 6:05:36 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: John O

nail on head.

Also how many kids died in the big cities in one night by gangs, robbers, etc?


17 posted on 03/21/2013 6:06:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

The reason you get the disconnect is that they won’t address their assumptions.

The sheeperals’ assumptions are humanistic, and the specific assumption is that if the society were “directed” to be a better society, then there wouldn’t be bad people (”sin”).

Of course, banning guns would, in their minds, create that better society, so there wouldn’t BE bad guys breaking into their houses. That’s why they can’t logically make the connection.

Address the assumption first. Then address the issue.


18 posted on 03/21/2013 6:07:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Travis McGee

OK thank you, that makes sense.


19 posted on 03/21/2013 6:07:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MrB

I;ve always found that when I hear the left talk it reminds me of two kids, they cannot address the real facts, they seem to live in some mamby pamby la la land and can;t face reality.

I remember one woman talking about rapes and assaults on women and how they don;t need guns because we shoudl focus on telling men not to attack women.
Well yea we should and do but men already know if they rape a woman it;s wrong so that’s not working but the woman on TV just could not get it into her head that the world is not perfect and that men will and have always attacked woman in the past.
All this woman could say was to tell men not to rape women instead of hearing the other woman who said that women need to protect themselves as there will always be attacks and the world is not perfect.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 6:12:29 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rellimpank
We still think there is value in sending a message that assault weapons and extended magazines are dangerous and unnecessary

"Dangerous and unnecessary" - People who would rob us of our freedom.

21 posted on 03/21/2013 6:13:02 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Travis McGee

***Makes you wonder why they want to take away our assault rifles so badly...***

It is so they can get a foot in the door for a Federal Gun ban. Handguns are their REAL target, and AWs are just a target of opportunity, a place to begin.


22 posted on 03/21/2013 6:16:29 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: manc

Classic “constrained” vs “unconstrained” vision.

One woman was assuming a “constrained” worldview where man is sinful and not perfectible.

The other is assuming an “unconstrained” worldview in which man is perfectible if we just set up the right environment.

Until the two address their base assumptions, OR EVEN RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAVE THEM,
they’ll just get frustrated in their discussion.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 6:23:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

yea the pro gun woman just raised her arms up and gave up, the anti gun woman who could not understand real life just kept repeating the same mantra of men should be tld not to attack and then women don;t need guns.

Am I the only one who has heard left wing folk talk and they sound like little kids but when you hear conservatives they sound like grown ups.
Oh and how any one can even talk to Colmes or beckel is beyond me as it;s so obvious that they do nothing but lie


24 posted on 03/21/2013 6:26:43 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Seems simple to me, but then again, I understand the “problem” that the unconstrained woman had.

I’d simply ask - “do you really believe that rapists will stop raping, 100% guaranteed, if you tell them not to?”


25 posted on 03/21/2013 6:44:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB; All
“because there has to be a reason to disarm the people, or there wouldn’t be a push to disarm the people.”

One of the reasons is to establish dominance. They want to establish the fact that they are in charge and you can do nothing about it.

Stopping these insane bans are the equivalent of punching the school bully in the face.

26 posted on 03/21/2013 2:06:46 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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