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Misdirection it may be as we allocate scarce military resources to the wrong place.

Our national security braintrust couldn't connect the dots on a 2 point plot.

1 posted on 04/05/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Funny how you never hear the bisexual Kenyan socialist call for regime change in North Korea and Iran...


2 posted on 04/05/2013 10:35:37 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: AU72

Just a reminder,
Our spooks couldn’t for see the fall of the Soviet Union and they are given what several hundred billion a year!!


3 posted on 04/05/2013 10:36:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: AU72

.......”We have to look at bigger pictures.”.....

Well...I’m sure all interested parties are and have been doing just that....however it is Kim leading the charge....remember this time sanctions cut off his personal bank accounts in other countrys...He’s a kid without the cash he’s accustomed to.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 10:41:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: AU72

The North Koreans had sent “observers” to the Iranian nuclear program and I have seen reports that Iranians were at the last North Korean nuke test. Clearly the North Koreans and Iranians are sharing nuclear technology. For all we know the last North Korean nuclear test might have been an Iranian device. It was rumored that the Israelis similarly secretly cooperated with the South Africans with a nuclear test in the far south Atlantic in 1979.


5 posted on 04/05/2013 10:43:19 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: AU72
Send most of the navy to NK and Iran gets bold and sends ships toward U.S. and the rest of them attack Israel.
7 posted on 04/05/2013 10:50:24 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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People are trying to over analyze North Korea’s behavior. This tantrum is pretty much par for the course. This is how they do internal politics, it’s part of how they brainwash their own people, it’s how they whip up nationalist feelings, it’s one of the ways they try to get their half starved population to work harder for the Juche cause, etc.

Every year, like clockwork, North Korea throws a tantrum around about the time the US and South Korea hold their annual exercises. Every year North Korea, the media, various geopolitical analysts, etc, tell us this is the worst it’s ever been. After a few weeks the shouting dies down, the Norks declare victory, and we move on.

We can plainly see with the use of satellites and other intelligence gathering that North Korea isn’t really on some war footing. They aren’t moving troops, they aren’t actually doing anything militarily that would indicate an attack is imminent. North Korea is so broke they probably can’t afford an army wide show of force anyway.

It’s possible North Korea might miscalculate and take their bluster campaign a step too far and actually shoot at something, but most likely they will continue stomping their feet for a few weeks and then return to the status-quo.


8 posted on 04/05/2013 10:53:46 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: AU72

Kim Jong Un and Barry “Basketball-Jones” Obama.

Two spoiled brat Man-Boys toying with the lives and fortunes of hundreds of millions.


9 posted on 04/05/2013 10:57:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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if I were the head of an intelligence service I would ask my smartest people to test an hypothesis: what if it’s misdirection? What if there trying to get us to focus on them, when something else is in the works someplace else?

I will posit a theory that I read here on FR; the NKs don't have a large TND. Therefore, their lack of a delivery system for one is not relevant. They have successfully tested some tactical-yield weapons. The Iranians have some pretty sophisticated short-range missile systems (anti-ship) that can deliver the 'small' NK devices.

Put that combo on a fishing or other commercial vessel and move into range of 2 or 3 Eastern Seaboard U.S. cities. You now have the ability to conduct a nuclear missile strike on the U.S. while our anti-missile eyes are trained on the Korean peninsula.

If you add the Central/South American countries into the mix, they frequently have fishing vessels along our coasts. The alliance becomes deadly when you consider who has what in the weapon/delivery system/platform equation.

11 posted on 04/05/2013 11:07:05 AM PDT by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: AU72
China, I think, has helped North Korea build The Bomb. Probably helped with their rocket technology, too. Both, to some degree.

Iran and NK are cooperating in a technological exchange. No secret, there.

Venezuela has been inviting the Iranians over, and there's been purchases and sharing of military tech, with promises of future further cooperation.

Understand, the hatred these nations have for America is well into the irrational. They would cut their nose off to spite their face--that level of America hatred. To what end?

I'll tell you: I think Venezuela will be the launching pad for Iranian rockets tipped with Nork nuke warheads. Their range is limited, but basing in Venezuela eliminates that. They could hit ALL of CONUS with such positioning. Screw accuracy--the threat would be good enough.

Imagine the consequences: The public outcry? The delight of our adversaries being able to threaten--or carry out--an attack on the American homeland?

Would our policy toward defending South Korea be forced to change? Would we have to leave, or the war comes to the American homeland? (North Korea benefits.)

Would our policy toward Iran--sanctions--have to be lifted? Would our policy to Israel be affected? Would the Iranian regime be strengthened, instead of being unstable, due to this show of weakness by America? (Iran benefits.)

Would the regime in Venezuela be strengthened, due to the humiliation of the gringos at the hands of the Venezolanos? (Venezuela benefits.)

Lastly, and most covertly, the nations of both Russia and China benefit, in that American attention is diverted completely away from whatever they're doing, and even if we're keeping on eye on them, we're beseeching Russia and China for their vote in the U.N. to deal with the ongoing Axis of Evil (NK, Iran, Venezuela) problem.

China has been using NK as a vicious little poodle to do its dirty work. Russia enjoys it because these nations tie up our resources that might otherwise tie up Russia. (And China for the same reason.)

America is hated because it is a force for Good in the world. We need to be strong, vigilant, morally righteous (to give us that inner strength and protection from God), and militarily and economically powerful.

12 posted on 04/05/2013 11:09:15 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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Bing! Heard on the 1 PM news that we were having sit-down negotiations with Iran and it dawned on me that the Norks were the diversion for what was going on. Now I read this article. Fitz


14 posted on 04/05/2013 11:14:07 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: AU72

The something else is Obama.


18 posted on 04/05/2013 11:19:51 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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Remember what helped start WWII.
We cut off the Japanese oil, which started a clock running until the point of no return when they would no longer be able to operate.
Maybe these pinheads have finally reached a point where they figure it’s march, or die anyhow.


20 posted on 04/05/2013 11:45:22 AM PDT by jim999
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It could be that Russia and China just wanted to test our Missile Defenses.

Russian Bomber Roulette

25 posted on 04/05/2013 12:31:10 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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27 posted on 04/05/2013 12:53:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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...when I see the North Koreans jumping up and down and threatening to nuke us, I ask myself what’s in it for the Iranians?

Totalitarian thugs in bed together? Who woudda thunk it possible?

Totalitarians and their love of 'power and control' trumps the 'feel good bullsh*t' they feed to their enslaved populations?

No, no, it can't be... Tell me it's not true...

32 posted on 04/06/2013 8:17:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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...when I see the North Koreans jumping up and down and threatening to nuke us, I ask myself what’s in it for the Iranians? And I add the others in the global anti-American alliance. What’s in it for the Chinese?

Ledeen's right... he understands Iran and Iran's ability to strategically control North Koreans and South American puffed up (but stupid) dictators...

37 posted on 09/15/2013 10:51:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (As Iowahawk..summed it up Putin is now just basically doing donuts in ObamaÂ’s front yard." Steyn)
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