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Is America a two party Dictatorship?
17 April 2013 | vannrox

Posted on 04/17/2013 3:34:08 AM PDT by vannrox

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1 posted on 04/17/2013 3:34:08 AM PDT by vannrox
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As soon as “R” is working so hard to eradicate itself it looks more like a classic One Party Dictatorship.


2 posted on 04/17/2013 3:38:50 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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Sorry about the HTML errors. THe quotation marks are rendered as funny characters as this...(”). Please don’t flame. It’s been a while since I really gave a good posting, and I’m a bit rusty.

My computer keeps switching back and forth from Chinese and English and thus it was a bit difficult to compile up. I know that there are errors and that maybe this will anger some people. I’m just basically pretty distraught at what is going on in the USA. I see a president who actually thinks that the federal Government is a Democracy... Who thinks that a 14% unemployment rate is a sign of progress, and who wants to start yet another endless war in Asia.

Nothing ever changes...


3 posted on 04/17/2013 3:45:18 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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Take a look at the text of the Supreme Court's Scott v. Sandford (1856) decision, where the Supreme's held that even freed Negros were not entitled to the rights of white men because:
More especially, it cannot be believed that the large slaveholding States regarded them as included in the word citizens, or would have consented to a Constitution which might compel them to receive them in that character from another State. For if they were so received, and entitled to the privileges and immunities of citizens, it would exempt them from the operation of the special laws and from the police regulations which they considered to be necessary for their own safety.

It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport [i.e. with no requirement to show government picture ID], and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went[i.e. carry with no need for license of any form]. And all of this would be done in the face of the subject race of the same color, both free and slaves, and inevitably producing discontent and insubordination among them, and endangering the peace and safety of the State.

It is impossible, it would seem, to believe that the great men of the slaveholding States, who took so large a share in framing the Constitution of the United States and exercised so much influence in procuring its adoption, could have been so forgetful or regardless of their own safety and the safety of those who trusted and confided in them.

This was what the rights of free citizens were conceived to include before the Civil War.
4 posted on 04/17/2013 4:04:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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What about China’s one child rule and local party leaders who enforce it. What about China’s strict controls over the Internet? What about due process in China. I agree the U.S. is less free and the government passes laws that apply to us but not them, but China more free? Not believable. We the people should insist that any law congress passes should apply to them as well.


5 posted on 04/17/2013 4:18:12 AM PDT by samsmom
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Fascism rules the day in America.


6 posted on 04/17/2013 4:32:57 AM PDT by stockpirate (COME AND GET THEM.....)
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It’s pretty much a one party rule. There are a few in DC that are working to change things but the fact that some call themselves either Republican or Democrat is mere window dressing to create a differentiation to market themselves and pull in dollars.

Other than the illusion of a difference they are all statists of varying degrees.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 4:39:37 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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I stopped reading right here:

“Refuse to show ID.
In China you can do it, and no one will bat an eye.”

WHAT???

Also, glancing down, I have a completely different interpretation of the meaning of the Ninth Amendment.


8 posted on 04/17/2013 4:41:44 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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You read too much propaganda. Most of the Chinese people I know have 3 kids. The one-child rule is a rule of taxation. You are taxed depending on the number of children you have.

If the first child is a girl, you can have a second child without paying a tax. The next child you have to pay a tax equal to 1.5% of your income. A child after that, the tax raises to 5%.

China is a Communist single party government. It is not free. But, on a day to day basis it IS freer than the USA is.

The Internet blocks Facebook because the Chinese government does not want the USA government to have the information posted on facebook (routinely uploaded to NSA servers). Same with u-tube. It is different than the USA, and I miss many things about the USA.

But do NOT sit there, as a person who has never visited China, and tell me that the USA is freer. IT IS NOT.

Today I chewed a betel nut. Cost me about 60 cents. Illegal in the USA. I am going to eat dinner at a restaurant and have a beer and smoke some cigarettes there. You can’t do that in the USA.

I’m a wild and crazy guy. When I ride in a car, I don’t put on my seatbelt. You can’t do that in your land of the free, can you? After dinner, I’m going out to play snooker at the local bowling alley. I won’t be carded or asked to see my age. Can’t do that in the USA.

My point is that Freedom is a day to day event. You either experience a free life or you don’t. That is my point.

I live in China and I have three kids. What about the single-baby rule? Two weeks ago I went to Guangdong and hunted deer using a full automatic AK-47. You can’t do that in the USA. You don’t know what you are talking about. You just repeat the mindless nonsense printed in American media.

Open up your eyes, and listen to what I am talking about. You don’t believe me. Fine. Live your fantasy. Many Germans thought Hitler was fantastic, and paid the price for their blindness.

China is NOT NOT NOT free. But, my point is that China is freer than the USA on many fundamental levels.


9 posted on 04/17/2013 4:46:05 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Bump


10 posted on 04/17/2013 4:46:57 AM PDT by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
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To: Chad N. Freud

True you will not be asked to show your ID. The only time you are asked to show your ID is for a Residency check, or upon entering the country. If you don’t show your ID then, other things happen.

My point is day to day activities. Try going one entire week without showing your ID in the USA. Try it. you cannot.

You can interpret the amendments differently than I do. Fine. I am happy that you believe that the USA is a wonderful and free country. Enjoy your freedom. Oh yes, you DID pay your income tax didn’t you?..?


11 posted on 04/17/2013 4:51:02 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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Just figuring this out?


12 posted on 04/17/2013 4:57:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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My point is simple; Safety is not Freedom. And, the only ONLY document in the USA that protects Freedom is the Bill of Rights. I believe that it is not being protected and cherished as it should. This upsets me.

I contend that Americans have been so programmed by the news media, and so accustomed to living without freedom that they don’t even know what it is.

Freedom is not clean. It is messy, ugly and smells. But true freedom is what causes and inspires people, families and nations to greatness. Freedom and liberty is valuable. It needs to be appreciated, treasured and honored. Not ignored or permitted to wane away to nothing. It has to be fought for, protected and defended.

In the last election, NO ONE talked about freedom. Instead they offered plans for more laws, and more taxes, and more benefits. they offered promises of how they would change the country to make it greater. But none of them talked about Freedom. Not one. That is the problem that I lament.

that is why I wrote this controversial article.


13 posted on 04/17/2013 5:02:18 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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I can believe that on a day to day basis, some aspects of Chinese life are freer than some aspects of the U.S. I also think everybody on this forum is well aware of the degredations of our freedoms - that’s not news. Not here, anyway.

I would also state that there is almost no economic freedom in China, to move from one class to another. And the need to be well connected to government apparatchiks is even more chronic in China than the U.S, though we are fast moving in that direction. Again, few on FR find this surprising.


14 posted on 04/17/2013 5:14:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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Try going one entire week without showing your ID in the USA. Try it. you cannot.

Strange comment. On the surface, you can go a week. And certainly you can go much longer than a week without showing it to a gov't authority. But there is a bigger question: showing an ID is a straw test for "freedom" or "liberty" in general.

15 posted on 04/17/2013 5:16:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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Thank you for taking the time to think about these issues and to post your views. You make many valid points. Folks on this site may want to give some thought to your views before dismissing them so cavalierly.
16 posted on 04/17/2013 5:18:22 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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My point is day to day activities. Try going one entire week without showing your ID in the USA. Try it. you cannot

The last time I needed to show my ID was in 2011 - to get a new driver's license.

17 posted on 04/17/2013 5:22:39 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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Only one party, The Big Government Party

Two branches:

Democrat - Practice what they preach

Republican - Preach like moderates, govern like democrats


18 posted on 04/17/2013 5:24:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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Their power was originally neither arbitrary nor unaccountable, being subject to law and requiring retrospective justification.

This is incorrect. The single biggest difference between a dictator and the ordinary magistrates was that a dictator was NOT liable to lawsuit for misuse of power after leaving office. All other magistrates were.

19 posted on 04/17/2013 5:27:04 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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My point is that Freedom is a day to day event. You either experience a free life or you don’t.

Very true, and I'm afraid your analysis is correct.

Someone posted film footage (color) of VJ Day in Hawaii. There were all kinds of folks driving around without seatbelts, people piled on top of moving cars, etc. All I could think while watching that footage is that, today, those people would be ticketed and/or arrested en mass for violating any number of "for your own good" laws.

Pathetic what we've become.

20 posted on 04/17/2013 5:37:15 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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