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Obama angrily denounces gun-rights groups as willful liars
The Washington Times ^ | 4/17/2013 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 04/17/2013 3:35:07 PM PDT by markomalley

President Obama angrily blamed the defeat Wednesday of his centerpiece gun-control proposal on lies spread by the National Rifle Association, calling it “a pretty shameful day for Washington.”

“The gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill,” Mr. Obama said in the White House rose garden about 90 minutes after the vote. “It came down to politics.”

As he spoke, Mr. Obama was surrounded by family members of victims of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting. Also with him was former Rep. Gabby Giffords of Arizona, wounded in an assassination attempt.

Senators voted 54-46 late Wednesday to expand background checks of gun purchases, six votes shy of the 60 needed for passage of the amendment.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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To: markomalley

FYI...on the NY Safe Act

Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841, “We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.”

The letter:

To: Andrew M. Cuomo / Dean G. Skelos / Neil D. Breslin / John T- McDonald III / Phil Steck / Sheldon Silver / Jeffrey D. Klein / Cecilia Tkaczyk / Patricia Fahy Note; see the formal list of people this letter went to at the bottom.

April 15,2013

Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Albany Police Officers Union condemns and opposes the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act (the SAFE Act) Substantively, we believe that it violates fundamental constitutional rights, that it is unduly and purposely burdensome on law-abiding citizens, and” that it will not deter criminals or menially ill individuals from plotting and carrying out bloodshed and violence. Procedurally, we believe that the way in which the bill was rammed into law via an unjustified and expedient “message of necessity”, which circumvents the right and the ability of the citizens of this State to voice their concerns about the bill and have them addressed, is an outrage. This flawed law’ and the w ay in which it was rushed and passed., shows the apparent contempt that those who govern have for the governed, and. calls into question whether we truly have a representational government. Morally, we believe that this law is about ideology and politics and not about making anyone any safer. We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.

First, while we applaud and support your overall concern for public safety and your desire to improve it. The SAFE Act will not improve public safety. Criminals and the mentally ill will not abide by it, and it is either foolish or dishonest to think or suggest otherwise. While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law and not load a ten-round magazine with more than seven rounds, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence not load ten rounds into a ten-round magazine? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law that previously legal thirty-round magazines must be sold within one-year to an out-of-state resident or turn in to local authorities, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to sell or turn in his thirty-round magazines? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law requiring that they register weapons which they already do and which have been deemed “assault weapons”, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to do so? Do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to be concerned about any increase in penalties for shooting first responders? Do you really expect that a mentally ill individual who owns firearms and who is intent on doing violence will voice his intentions to his or her mental health professional and thus put into motion the confiscation of his or her firearms? Do you-really expect that a mentally ill individual will “safely store” his firearms? Of course you don’t. Again, only law-abiding citizens, who are not intent on doing violence, will abide the NY SAFE Act criminals and the mentally ill who are intent on doing violence will not do so. The public will not be any safer under this 1aw. What then, have you accomplished?

Second., the SAFE Act carries with it unfair burdens on law abiding citizen. What is the point of making law-abiding citizens register their previously lawfully owned and lawfully used firearms which are now deemed to be “assault weapons”? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens who affirmatively “opt into” protection from public identification that they hold permits or own firearms? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens renew their pistol permits or “assault weapon” registrations every five years? Why are you preemptively punishing those who have done nothing wrong?

Third, -we fully believe that the SAFE ACT broad prohibitions against will not. withstand constitutional challenge and scrutiny. The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides and U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the right of individuals to possess and carry firearms and to use them for lawful purposes. The SAFE Act, however, infringes on that right as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and” used lawfully for the defense of life, liberty, and property, and as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and used lawfully for safe use of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting.

We as police officers are on the front lines of public safety. Respectfully, none of you are. We see, feel, work, and live with the effects of gun violence in ways that you cannot. We believe that you see gun violence as a means to move your agenda and your ambitions forward. You know that the SAFE Act will not work in the way that you pretend it will. You know that this shameful SAFE Act was about ideology and politics and not about making anyone safer.

Regarding the reduction in violent crime this new legislation is proposed to have, in 2011 the most current year for which FBI crime statistics are available, New York State had 77l homicides, 445 were committed with a firearm, 394 of that 445 were committed with a handgun, 5 were committed with a rifle, 16 were committed with a shotgun, in 30 the firearm type was unknown, 160 were committed with a cutting instrument, 143 were committed with another type of weapon, and 26 were committed with bare hands. We believe based on these statistics, that the SAFE Act will do nothing to reduce violent crime as the primary target of the legislation is the “assault rifle” which would be included statistically with standard rifles and used in less than 1% of New York homicides in 2011.These so called “Assault Weapons” were not used in the commission of one reported crime in Albany County in 2011.

For the reasons set forth above, the Albany Police Union believes that the SAFE Act is wrong - substantively, procedurally, and morally. The SAFE Act infringes on the rights of law-abiding citizens, it will burden and negatively impact firearms ownership by law-abiding citizens and will not affect the willingness of criminals or those who are mentally ill from perpetrating violence. Again, we respectfully demand that each and all of you do the right thing and repeal the law.

Very truly yours,

Thomas Mahar: President Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841 Council 82, AFSCME, AFI-CIO


21 posted on 04/17/2013 3:42:19 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: markomalley

“Even without Congress, my Administration will” do more.

Uh Oh. Here come the unconstitutional fiats....


22 posted on 04/17/2013 3:42:54 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: markomalley

And he told us the whole truth and nothin’ but the truth about obamacare... hypocrites....


23 posted on 04/17/2013 3:43:10 PM PDT by vet7279
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To: markomalley

FU boy tyrant.
We’re ready for the next cute sh!t you try, as well!


24 posted on 04/17/2013 3:43:14 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: obama

             

25 posted on 04/17/2013 3:43:22 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Marathoner

26 posted on 04/17/2013 3:43:45 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Fitzy_888

Hey NRA!

You represented my views!

Thank you!

FUBO!


27 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: markomalley

What were the specific lies?


28 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:09 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends



Our Republic functioned properly today. Citizens patriots actively won the day!

Our Constitution was upheld!


Please Show Your Support for Free Republic Today.

If you can Donate Monthly, that would be ideal.

29 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:33 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Renegade

“FUBO U POS!”

Ditto, ditto, ditto that!


30 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:40 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: markomalley

I seldom watch him but today i tossed the heating pad on the bed and laid down he was about to blow a head gasket he was acting like a petulant child that was told no bosco with suppers


31 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:47 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: markomalley

It was about politics, while dancing on the graves of children. FUBO!


32 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:53 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: markomalley

Remember BO Senate and congress will be coming up for reelection soon..They seem to know what the people want and they themselves want to be reelected..I hope and pray ever last one of the fools lose anyway..

Take the free loading wife and spend the night at Camp David,stay off YV no one watches your lying butt anyway..


33 posted on 04/17/2013 3:44:54 PM PDT by PLD
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To: markomalley

You mean his wonderful democrat senators are such frigging fools and cowards, that they had no way of dealing with these “lies”, even with the assistance of their wonderful president?


34 posted on 04/17/2013 3:45:21 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: markomalley
President Obama angrily blamed the defeat Wednesday of his centerpiece gun-control proposal on lies spread by the National Rifle Association, calling it “a pretty shameful day for Washington.”

Which is irrelevant since the federal government has no constitutional authority to regulate the right to keep and bear arms.

35 posted on 04/17/2013 3:45:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: markomalley

Well, all I can say is freedom has won this time and the girly man POTUS lost.


36 posted on 04/17/2013 3:45:54 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: markomalley

“SHUT UP!!!”, he explained.

Alternately, “Hey, you can’t lie about legislation! Only I can lie about legislation!”


37 posted on 04/17/2013 3:46:06 PM PDT by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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To: markomalley

FUBO!


38 posted on 04/17/2013 3:46:12 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: markomalley

He’ll take to his new non-Oval office (without the surveillance) and his new bunker if he decides to go medival on us.


39 posted on 04/17/2013 3:47:11 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: markomalley

Obama got what he demanded in speech after speech. He got a VOTE!


40 posted on 04/17/2013 3:48:00 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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