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Did Holder Initiate the Legal Process For Boston Bomber To Shut-up And Lawyer-Up?
Gateway Pundit ^ | 4/25/13 | Mara Zebest

Posted on 04/25/2013 9:18:20 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

Where was she when the SWAT teams were invading homes and kicking people out of their domiciles???


21 posted on 04/25/2013 9:40:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sean327
You choose.

I heard a former DoJ prosecter from Bush's term explaining the legality of this on Saturday night and he was saying how there was a way to consider him an "enemy combatant" but the administration would certainly not use it.

So- he fully expected the man to be Miranda'd and for him to do exactly what he just did: clam up. And- it went down EXACTLY as he said it would. Not sure it is as cut and dry as you seem to think it is. There are circumstances that when public safety is immediately threatened, the Miranda laws do not apply. I forget the exact term for it.

So, for instance, if the bomber had friends that were conducting more life threatening actions- like bombing trains in Canada to the U.S., we theoretically had every right NOT to Miranda him due to the clear and present danger. Now that we have, he can do more damage, simply by saying nothing.

22 posted on 04/25/2013 9:41:01 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: sean327
I know this is not the popular opinion here but he should have been read his Miranda rights from the git-go. He may be a dirbag terrorist, but he is a US citizen and must be afforded due process. If they can pull this crap on him they can pull it on any of us.

Absolutely right! While I don't like the easy process by which Tsarnaev became an American citizen, the fact is that he is a naturalized citizen and is therefore entitled to every right thereunto pertaining until he is convicted of the crimes for which he is charged.

23 posted on 04/25/2013 9:41:59 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: sean327

Wrongo Bongo. He is a freaking terrorist and was afforded all health care rights as a US citizen but the public exemption act was in place and this beyotch had him awakened so he could be “mirandized”. You can’t be questioned in a48 hour period if you are unconscious due to administered drugs.
B/effin/S


24 posted on 04/25/2013 9:42:12 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: SoCal Pubbie

So your ok with US citizens being declared enemy combatants?
I’m not. Where is that line drawn? Where does it stop? There is no set criteria for classifing someone an enemy combatant.


25 posted on 04/25/2013 9:43:13 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Nachum
"There are circumstances that when public safety is immediately threatened, the Miranda laws do not apply. I forget the exact term for it."

(Waving hand excitedly.) Exigent circumstances!

26 posted on 04/25/2013 9:45:41 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Nachum

Well, any reference to previous FBI interviews or watch lists will be quickly ruled “prejudicial” and completely excluded. All pre-bombing government incompetence will be excluded. One million people ordered to shelter in place (martial law), that will be prejudicial too. CYA is looking ok all around -that’s what’s really important, that we get back to the “appearance” of security as soon as possible.

If the defense can call Mom then she’ll act crazy on que on the stand too garner sympathy for her son, with a Mom like that how couldn’t you be screwed up, right? Don’t discount it.

Finally, women are already saying he’s cute. He only needs one digbat social media obsessed dimwit broad to hang the jury.

In short, a fiasco.


27 posted on 04/25/2013 9:47:31 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Enterprise

you know what FBI stands for? Famous But Incompetent.

This guys is doing time. No doubt. Especially with the show that was put on. But, there just seems to be some really weird things going on, to me at least. All the misinformation about how they were armed. He had a gun in the boat, then he didn’t.

But, you’re idea on that Saudi is definitely something to look into. Too bad it never will. Now they’re trying to tear Beck apart about it.


28 posted on 04/25/2013 9:47:32 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: CondorFlight

I agree..almost...though I think even with a trial..he’ll be out walking our streets again.


29 posted on 04/25/2013 9:48:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: sean327

This POS is no more an American than Obama is. They’re all traitors.


30 posted on 04/25/2013 9:48:33 PM PDT by Argus
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To: clintonh8r

NO SH*T!!!

I’d love to strap Patreus, Ham and many many others into a chair and ask them where their loyalty lies and when they gave up. Especially Patreus.

You’d think someone, would have some nuts and do the right thing. But, I guess their pensions, board of director positions and whatever else they do in retirement are worth more than honoring the oath they took.


31 posted on 04/25/2013 9:49:58 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Fitzy_888

Oh, they will try all the tricks to slow it up and reduce his sentence, but this guy is looking at Murder one, times a zillion.

However, they do have goodies they can offer him to get him to rat out his friends. The problem is that it takes time, and we do not have time while we are being attacked.


32 posted on 04/25/2013 9:50:20 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: qaz123

I think the intervention of a judge who had no business butting herself into a heavy investigation like this one gives Becks a lot of credibility now, in light of the fact that Joker clammed up. The left had some leverage in laughing at Beck, but that is gone now and Beck needs to take it and run with it for months.


33 posted on 04/25/2013 9:51:21 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
(Waving hand excitedly.) Exigent circumstances!

Sounds good. Not sure that was the one he used though.

34 posted on 04/25/2013 9:51:51 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: qaz123
"you know what FBI stands for?"

I've heard a few more. Some unprintable.

:B)

35 posted on 04/25/2013 9:52:51 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sean327

If only this dirtbag terrorist wasn’t citizenized under false pretenses I’d have to agree.


36 posted on 04/25/2013 9:53:08 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: Enterprise

I’m going out on a limb and saying that he probably doesn’t know much. Just following big brother.


37 posted on 04/25/2013 9:55:17 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: gasport

Naturalization can be revoked.

Interrogation for information should have been completed before miranda. The information gathered would not be needed in prosecution.

He is on video planting a bomb that killed and maimed, threw bombs at cops, left bombs all over the neighborhood, etc. That’s more than enough to get him a death sentence or three.

Would be interesting to know more about this judge’s background.


38 posted on 04/25/2013 10:04:54 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: caww

If he does time rather than swinging don’t be surprised when there is a lethal incident in prison.


39 posted on 04/25/2013 10:07:28 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: qaz123
I won't argue the point either, since we have had so much misinformation. This article states that he knew things very crucial to the FBI.

"Adding to the shock: the sources told Kelly agents were getting crucial information after only 16 hours of questioning and were making valuable progress."

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3012292/posts"

Breaking Report: FBI Was ‘Shocked’ to See Judge ‘Waltz’ in and Give Tsarnaev Miranda Rights

40 posted on 04/25/2013 10:07:53 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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