When He Talks Abortion, President Obama Pretends to Be a Libertarian

The Atlantic ^ | Apr 29 2013 | Conor Friedersdorf

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Addressing Planned Parenthood last week, President Obama made what must be one of the least self-aware statements of his tenure. "Forty years after the Supreme Court affirmed a woman's constitutional right to privacy, including the right to choose, we shouldn't have to remind people that when it comes to a woman's health, no politician should get to decide what's best for you," he said. "No insurer should get to decide what kind of care that you get. The only person who should get to make decisions about your health is you."

It's no secret that

[presidio9]

Look, I get why you are afraid to state your actual political philosphy: Because there is not a single mainstream conservative you can name who will state that it is impossible for a gay person to be conservative.

You have invented your own belief that is not shared by any other conservative. But go ahead and continue telling yourself you are the only conservative in the room, if that's what works for you.

[TArcher]

Hey Jim, can a homosexual be a Conservative POTUS?

[presidio9]

A warning Newbie: I have had dozens of people try to sick Jim Robinson on me over the years. Very often, it backfires on them. In this case, let's see what we're dealing with: You suddenly showed up in very late in this abortion thread posting irrelevant accusations (aka "trolling"). Your first post, #109, was an unsolicited personal attack. You then accused me of supporting the "homosexual agenda," and went as far as to call Little Jeremiah into this thread to gang up on me. The only problem with that is that she and I have known each other for years. So when she did show up here, she vouched for my conservative credentials and told you to take a hike. Undeterred, you started posting asinine hypotheticals, such as post 137

Could a homosexual be a conservative POTUS?

My actual (honest and accurate) answer was

There is no law against it, but I don't think he would be likely to win the nomination.

Since that time, you have renounced fiscal conservatism repeatedly, repackaged my opinions dishonestly, and refused to state your own political opinion. Oh, and that's when you're not

STALKING ME ON OTHER THREADS.

So, again, I do not support homosexuality. I oppose gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda. But I am first a Christian, before I am a conservative. I see gay people for what they are: sinners. Their particular sin disgusts me. But so long as they do not make an issue of it (and trust me on this one, other than on TV sitcoms, most do not), I am happy to treat them like the human beings that they are. I know gay men that are trying not to be. I also know gay men that support typical gay rights issues but are otherwise conservative. Pro life. Pro gun rights. Pro family. Et cetera.

So, again, if you want to bring Jim Robinson into this idiotic conversation, have at it. But be careful what you wish for.

[TArcher]

“there is not a single mainstream conservative you can name who will state that it is impossible for a gay person to be conservative.”

Jim, you’re a mainstream conservative — What do you think: Can a homosexual be a conservative POTUS?

[TArcher]

[But I am first a Christian, before I am a conservative. I see gay people for what they are: sinners. ]

Oh well let me clarify what you just said — An unrepentant homosexual CAN NOT be a Conservative Christian POTUS.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Oh well let me clarify what you just said — An unrepentant homosexual CAN NOT be a Conservative Christian POTUS.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Try again dumbass. That is a different question from the one you asked and very different from the answer I gave.

[presidio9]

Maybe you should start by asking Jim how he feels about newbies who habitually stalk other FReepers, hijack threads for infantile agendas, engage in unsolicited personal attacks and continually misrepresent the opinions of longstanding and respected participants on the website.

I'll give you a hint: They usually don't stick around very long. You are making a mistake pinging Jim into this, but by all means be my guest. My experience tells me that he will most likely ignore you anyway.

[TArcher]

Nah, we’ll keep you focused upon your misrepresentation of Conservatism on this forum, Socrates.

An unrepentant homosexual CAN NOT be a Conservative Christian POTUS - Don’t you agree?