Skip to comments.Noted immigration researchers Haley Barbour,Jeff Flake, and Paul Ryan slam Heritage Foundation study
Posted on 05/06/2013 2:04:55 PM PDT by Bratch
Haley Barbour on the Heritage report: "It's a political document. It's not serious analysis."
Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) May 06, 2013
Ths morning the Heritage Foundation released a study estimating that amnesty will cost taxpayers at least $6.3 trillion. We can certainly understand why amnesty supporters are upset, but their criticisms of the study ring hollow.
Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour calls the study a political document and not serious analysis but does not say what specifically is wrong with the methodology.
Sen. Jeff Flake also criticized the study, arguing that it does not take into account the economic benefits of immigration.
Here we go again. New Heritage study claims huge cost for Immigration Reform. Ignores economic benefits. No dynamic scoring.
Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) May 06, 2013
Robert Rector says his study is a dynamic analysis. Shows that low-skill immigrants hurt low-skill citizen wages by 10%
Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) May 06, 2013
Rep. Paul Ryan piled on:
In a statement provided to CQ Roll Call, the Wisconsin Republican had this to say about the Heritage report that the Senate bills amnesty component would cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion over several decades: The Congressional Budget Office has found that fixing our broken immigration system could help our economy grow. A proper accounting of immigration reform should take into account these dynamic effects.
Heritage study does account for economic benefits of amnesty. They predict tax revenues will go up by $3.1 trillion.
Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) May 06, 2013
And please, Rep. Ryan, dont rely on the CBOs estimates of costs during the next 10 years:
DeMint compares Schumer-Rubio to Obamcare. Says cost explosion hidden outside 10 year CBO window.
Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) May 06, 2013
We are open to the possibility that the Heritage Foundations analysis is flawed, but these are not good-faith criticisms. In fact, given how weak these arguments are, we doubt Barbour, Flake, or Ryan have even read the study. (It is 92 pages long and was released just this morning.)
I like Haley Barbour, but what are the chances he read the 90 pg @Heritage report before sounding off? ow.ly/kKU8q
Mark Kelly (@MarkdKelly2) May 06, 2013
We look forward to serious critiques of the studys methodology, particularly from those who havent been on the payroll of the Mexican government.
An understatement to be sure.
People want to lie to themselves and pretend the GOP still had Reagan in it. I don’t blame them anymore. Scared people make bad choices. But those STILL ‘clinging’ to the BS and railing those of us awake to it?
Ryan is part of the GOPe that has been bought and is owned by corporate America. They have sold their souls for political contributions.
I believe it Ayn Rand who said something to the effect "Republicans only exist to slow down democrats"
When you have two diametrically opposed ideologies, one Constitutional vs one that is socialist, compromise can only defer to the left....the slippery slope.
Something about that exchange sent my Ryan radar up and I haven't really trusted him, since. That, and when he held back on Joe at the VP *debate*.
Flake supported amnesty when he was in the House. Palin endorsed McCain over Hayworth.
And that’s the GOP that sat on Benghazi for how many months? Ignores Arpaio? F&F? Sided with Dems on forming a Gun control plot? And now immigration ‘reform’.
People have to wake up.
AMEN to that! I'll never forget yelling at the TV when Biteme was making an ass out of himself when all his grinning and sneering, and Ryan didn't do squat about it.
I think the gig is coming to an end. They all know it and are grabbing the last pieces of silver before the shtf. This makes no sense whats so ever. Why would you vote for your own demise? They can not give one iota of evidence that this will help high spending and high unemployment. They are either hoping the American public is bat shit crazy or just dgaf!
To come out for this crapola proposal, and against Jim DeMint and The Heritage Foundation, is a new low for Ryno.
And Ryan officially joins the enemy within.
We can thank him for outing himself before 2016.
OK there was another when I thought Palin would run...but I admitted it and have been perfect since ;)
Anyone left ?
That makes the most sense of all. Seems like none of them want to give up their seats in the fallout shelter while the rest of the world goes over the edge.
Well, Agenda 21 has to reach the endgame eventually and they all fought for it. For a long time now. Piece by piece.
Look up “Turtle Island sometime. Then overlay the maps of fed lands and projections for land annexing. Then try convincing yourself this is all tinfoil.
It’s become patently obvious that anyone that welcomes the embrace of the Republican establishment should be looked at with extreme skepticism.
That’s why I’ve been leery of Marco Rubio all along; he had a very close relationship with the Bush family and he’s quickly established ties to McCain’s RINO faction.
Compare that to the actions of Ted Cruz. So far, at least, the junior senator from Texas comes across as a genuine conservative.
The Dems and Reps are just two wings of the same party. Time for a real third party.
I don't think any of them had the time to read it, not that they would bother.
Totally agree. We need more people saying it on FR and everywhere. The “you can’t do that” crowd is helping keep people from even considering it.
And be ready to argue. Because the GOP faithful will not be shy about trying to shout you down.
Good post, thx
What good is it to have the GOP in charge of the House if they can’t stop such legislation?
Paul Ryan is one of these Republicans who loves more the trappings of DC and Establishment than fighting for what’s right. Demint speaks strictly from the heart about what’s right and wrong, and Ryan is playing the DC game just to stay in office. The guy is ‘soft’, he’s no ‘fighter’ like Sens Cruz or Paul.
Lets not forget that sicko Willard is the father of gay marriage and thinks homosexual adoption to be just the thing for gays in what he calls “a loving relationship”
And some were called traitors here for not embracing him. Still are,
Um, because he's such an aggressive debater?
I cannot stand any of these people any longer.
Hope the fraudulent immigration bill fails. It must be stopped.
Jeff Flake has been a phenomenal disappointment. He didn’t waste any time at all jumping on the RINO bandwagon. I wish I had voted for the Democrat.
He has always been for the establishment. Now, more people see it. It's a blessing to see who these people really are.
I doubt Barbour, Ryan or Flake even read the immigration bill.
“Why, again, was everyone so excite that Ryan was the VP pick?”
Good question. I’m sick of these republicans jumping on the Amnesty train and then attacking real meal deal guys like DeMint.
That is the question.
Conda,who is an immigration lawyer,went to work for George Soros before becoming Rubios Chief of Staff. Cesar Conda worked on the editorial advisory board of George Soros magazine,The International Economy Magazine.
Cesar Conda had been spinning lies about the amnesty bill about how illegal wouldnt get welfare,wait more than 10 years for citizenship,etc. Those lies have been completely debunked.
DeMint didn’t “love” Mittens any more than Rush or Levin did. They just saw him as a placeholder since he ended up being the only alternative to the African communist. Personally, I couldn’t (and didn’t) vote for Mittens, but I cut some slack to desperate people who decided the lesser of two evils was way lesser. (Again, I’m not so sure Mittens was much lesser, and anyway, I long ago decided to never again reward the GOPe for, out of sheer cowardice, successfully pushing a “moderate” down the party’s throat.)
I voted for Flake. He was better than the alternative. But he is such a pansy!
At this point, I’ve sadly come to the conclusion that the GOP is not worth supporting anymore. Although a third party would hurt us in the short run, it is the only hope I see. I don’t know of anyone in the GOP I would truly trust.
” Well, Agenda 21 has to reach the endgame eventually and they all fought for it. For a long time now. Piece by piece.
Look up Turtle Island sometime. Then overlay the maps of fed lands and projections for land annexing. Then try convincing yourself this is all tinfoil.”
No tinfoil needed, Norm. I wish we needed it.
When people see that Agenda 21 ultimately sets the population of the continental US as less than 300,000 people, (as it ‘fully supports’ the Turtle Island initiative) they spaz and think it’s Art Bell stuff....
Do they think the other A21 demands being implemented daily by the Dems and GOP are tinfoil too? If so they live in the Renyolds Factory. What happens in an economic collapse? Lots of people die from disease and starvation...if not killed in the rioting.
It gets you there pretty quick.
“Do they think the other A21 demands being implemented daily by the Dems and GOP are tinfoil too?”
Apparently, many if not most do.
“Outside Palin and Cruz and Walker? No. Not that I can find. No one else demonstrates any conservatism.
I dunno, I like Gohmert, Gowdey and Chafitz(sp?)....so far.”
They also seem to be very good conservatives, and fighters.
Here is a link for Gohmert’s interview with Chris Wallace - the whole thing is great to watch, but at about 2-2 1/2 minutes into it is where he tells Chris Wallace that he wishes the principal at Sandy Hook had a gun instead of her bare hands, so that she could have stopped the guy.