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Dems Say Need to Block ‘Stomach Churning’ Plastic Printable Gun is Urgent
Pajamas Media ^ | 05/07/2013 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 05/07/2013 10:08:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A New York Democrat wants to revise gun laws to encompass a downloadable plastic gun produced on a 3-D printer.

On Friday, Defense Distributed premiered its plastic firearm with only one small necessary metal part: the firing pin.

Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) wants to pour water on this invention with his Undetectable Firearms Modernization Act, which extends a 1988 ban on plastic guns that expires this year and extends it to include homemade, plastic high-capacity magazines and receivers. The piece of metal in the downloadable gun, which allows it to be spotted by metal detectors, keeps it within current law.

“Security checkpoints, background checks, and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print plastic firearms at home and bring those firearms through metal detectors with no one the wiser. When I started talking about the issue of plastic firearms months ago, I was told the idea of a plastic gun is science-fiction. Now that this technology appears to be upon us, we need to act now to extend the ban on plastic firearms,” Israel said.

Israel “revamped” his bill to make it “illegal to manufacture, own, transport, buy, or sell any firearm, receiver, or magazine that is homemade and not detectable by metal detector and/or does not present an accurate image when put through an x-ray machine.”

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) was so alarmed by Friday’s demonstration video of the downloadable gun that he called a Sunday news conference to jump on board Israel’s bill.

“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can open a gun factory in their garage, and the weapons they make will be undetectable,” Schumer said. “It’s stomach churning.”

The senator clarified he doesn’t want to ban 3-D printers outright.
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UPDATE: On CNBC today, Schumer said “at the very least” Congress needs to make it “a crime to have such a gun.”

#8220;If the police see you carrying one on the street, they’ll know it’s a crime. If anybody sees you doing it, they’ll know it’s a crime,” he said. “What we should do beyond that, I don’t know. I mean, obviously there are First Amendment issues. We’ve had this issue about bombs being put on the Internet in the past. And obviously someone could go overseas and put something on the Internet where our laws don’t govern.”

“But we have to do more than just make it a crime. I agree with that, mindful of the various constitutional and other types of constraints,” the senator continued. “And I don’t want to abolish these printers, that’s for sure, because I think by and large they do good things.”

Schumer said Congress has to investigate all ways in which guns can be made and regulate them.

“Everyone saw that John Malkovich movie, In the Line of Fire. It was a frightening movie. He spent months and months and months trying to craft a gun made of wood and plastic and figuring out a way,” he said.

“Obviously, you still have to deal with the bullets, but they could be put in a metal casing that could get through a metal detector without it ever being revealed there — a bullet. But he spent months doing this so he could assassinate the president, and the movie was frightening. He was one of the best bad guys I’ve ever seen in a movie. But now it’s real. And that’s — that’s much more frightening.”

PJM FLASHBACK: Gutenberg’s Rifle: The Downloadable Firearm Is Almost Real



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; distributed; guncontrol; guns; printablegun; secondamendment
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are they worried. It’s a disposable gun, only usable for 10 shots or so. A burn gun, as it were. OK, maybe I see their point, but it still violates our rights.

And “stomach-churning???” Puh-leeeeeze!


61 posted on 05/07/2013 10:50:31 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: servo1969

“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can get anything they need in spite all the people control laws.


62 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Perdogg
They could argue that since the internet cross stateliness, it falls under the commerce clause.

lol. Good Point. For Guvmnt, everything falls under the commerce clause somehow.

63 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:36 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Perdogg
Fortunately the Bill of Rights was passed right after the adoption of the Constitution, so it's arguable that the Bill of Rights and other amendments supersede the Commerce Clause.

The problem here is Steve Israel lives in a small isolated, even provincial community and their peculiar local standards are simply not shared by real Americans. I'll print up all the handguns I want and he can kiss my butt!

64 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: brooklyn dave

No, they (NRA) don’t .... my point was though, that they are more likely to become that then put themselves out of existence by embracing (far right) conservative values .... which was the contention of the lib idiot who wrote the article.

On the other hand, the GOP most definitely IS actively working on their own demise .... the article would have been more accurate if that was stated, but not because of ‘far right’ leanings .... but because they are becoming indistinguishable from the Democraps. I consider myself independent these days and vote ‘conservative’, do not identify as an “R”.


65 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:59 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A burn gun, as it were.

Yep but little different than the cheap throw away that can be bought in the nearest hood for a couple hundred bucks with no questions asked.
66 posted on 05/07/2013 10:53:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mister Tea
I wouldn’t try firing a gun made of 3D printer plastic — it seems like something more dangerous to the person behind it than to the person in front of it.

I'll second that. I wouldn't want to be the first or the third person if I had to shoot it (or any other person after the third person for that matter).

After they perfect the technique, make it look more traditional and can prove they have put 5,000 rounds through one, I do not want to own one.

67 posted on 05/07/2013 10:54:22 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Mister Tea

There are plenty of ways to beef up the plastic ~ to be covered at a later time ~ or you can use a small insertable barrel if you are ‘afraid’ ~ (which you should be until the plastic is beefed up)


68 posted on 05/07/2013 10:56:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind; All
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69 posted on 05/07/2013 10:58:56 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Tenacious 1

I don’t want one but I do love seeing the democrats get their panties all knotted up like this.


70 posted on 05/07/2013 10:59:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tenacious 1
I don't think you understand the purpose of this gun. It takes its name from a cheap, single-shot pistol dropped in France during WWII. It is not meant for long and continuous service.

Now if Schmuckey Schumer knew the history of the name, he would probably be blowing hemorrhoids our of his lips.

71 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:01 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I want one but I don’t like the yellow. I’d have to run my 75 mm field piece through Microsoft Paint before actually taking on the Wehrmacht with it.


72 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SampleMan

Ping


73 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:24 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: servo1969

Then there’s always the totally unregistered and totally unregulated family home pressure cooker ~


74 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: brooklyn dave
The UKIP - UK Independence Party.
75 posted on 05/07/2013 11:03:23 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind
Time to update the acronym. BATFEP.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives and Printers.

76 posted on 05/07/2013 11:03:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Billthedrill

I just slipped this in on Chuckie’s Facebook page.


77 posted on 05/07/2013 11:06:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many stupid gun laws are because of movie fiction? We have “cop killer” bullet laws fro stupid movies. Plastic gun bans from stupid movies. DC politicians need to get in the real world once in a while. Idiots.


78 posted on 05/07/2013 11:10:59 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: trubolotta
I don't think you understand the purpose of this gun. It takes its name from a cheap, single-shot pistol dropped in France during WWII. It is not meant for long and continuous service.

You mean in less than ten shots (probably one or two) it would be replaced by one of the firearms formerly carried by those enforcing the tyrants' commands? That does sound inconvenient for the far left fringe in the event that they attempted a transition to communism.

79 posted on 05/07/2013 11:12:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: muawiyah
There are plenty of ways to beef up the plastic

I recommend finding some naturally occurring twine and wrapping it around the barrel, just like you were whipping the ends of a larger rope, to strengthen and reinforce the barrel.

80 posted on 05/07/2013 11:16:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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