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A friend of mine hasn't been in Chicago in years and got a ticket mailed to him. It wasn't his car that ran the light. He fought the ticket and won, but is still quite angry about it.

I have a real problem with the whole "guilty until proven innocent" mindset with these cameras. Cars don't run red lights. People do.

1 posted on 05/24/2013 1:09:38 PM PDT by Darren McCarty
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To: Darren McCarty

And then they can quietly reduce their yellow light time to manufacture some income for themselves as opposed to actually doing anything to improve public safety on the roads.


2 posted on 05/24/2013 1:11:15 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Other places are removing them. These guys are really up on things.


3 posted on 05/24/2013 1:12:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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4 posted on 05/24/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darren McCarty

They are excellent for target practice, tho pretty expensive targets.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 1:20:11 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell, Huxley and Rand warned us about 0bama's USA)
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9 posted on 05/24/2013 1:34:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Darren McCarty

They put red light cameras in our city, promising not to shorten the yellow light time. Well, I don’t drive much, and probably hadn’t driven in a few months, but one morning I did follow my husband out to the mechanics to drop off one of our cars.

First thing I said to him after we had dropped off the car was...”They shortened the yellow lights.” He was doubtful. I guess it was noticeable to me because I hadn’t driven in a while, and it just felt wrong when I was going through an intersection, and the light turned red before it used to.

Sure enough 6 months later the company who installed the cameras admits they shortened the yellow light time, my instincts were right.


10 posted on 05/24/2013 1:41:52 PM PDT by memyselfandi59
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To: Darren McCarty

“The bill has gained the support of local law enforcement officials, who say the cameras.....”

will ensure a steady stream of money to fund their salaries, benefits and pensions.

OK, that second part was mine, but let’s be realistic.

FU, Rep. Wayne Schmidt, whoever the hell you are.


11 posted on 05/24/2013 1:45:38 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: Darren McCarty

Those camera stands will be gone in 60 seconds for scrap....


12 posted on 05/24/2013 1:51:52 PM PDT by Average Al
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Red Light cameras are not about safety. They are about increasing revenue.
If you have these cameras installed time the length of the yellow lights. Later they will be shortened by a few seconds which results in more people going through red lights and getting tickets.


13 posted on 05/24/2013 1:56:07 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Darren McCarty

Here in Houston we forced the city to remove them. They’re nothing more than an automated ripoff tool.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 2:07:24 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Thank you. Isn’t it amazing what they find time to address while “Rome” (in effect) burns.


17 posted on 05/24/2013 2:48:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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Aside from the problems caused by the cameras issuing tickets - even to motorists with no intention of running through red lights - how long do you think the cameras would last on the mean streets of Detroit?


18 posted on 05/24/2013 2:58:50 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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I would have thought every state had them in place just for the added revenue the pols have to spend. I went and checked and this is what I found.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 3:12:26 PM PDT by deport
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To: Darren McCarty

government cares nothing about safety.

all this is, is revenue generation.

they screw around with the light times to trap more people now running redlights.

they shrink the yellow light times and screw people. also they can angle them improperly and claim to catch people running red lights when they aren’t.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 5:39:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Darren McCarty
I wonder how a red light camera asks questions of the defendent...how does this camera answer questions asked by the defendents lawyer....

At one table we have a camera and at the other table we have the defendent....the camera cannot ask the prosecutor to ask questions for him....its all just that silly...the defendent has a right to question his accuser....I'd like to hear the cameras answers..

26 posted on 05/25/2013 12:12:14 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Darren McCarty

Just more ways for a government which can PRINT ITS OWN MONEY.....STILL wants to STEAL MORE OF OURS. Next they will have cameras to make sure you don’t park to far or too close to the curb, put your signal on when you change lanes and make a turn, stop completely at a stop light, don’t accelerate to fast and burn extra gas.


27 posted on 05/27/2013 1:25:13 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Darren McCarty

Just more ways for a government which can PRINT ITS OWN MONEY.....STILL wants to STEAL MORE OF OURS. Next they will have cameras to make sure you don’t park to far or too close to the curb, put your signal on when you change lanes and make a turn, stop completely at a stop light, don’t accelerate to fast and burn extra gas.


28 posted on 05/27/2013 1:25:58 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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