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Day care union foes taking new law to court (MN)
pioneer press ^ | 5-28-13 | doug belden

Posted on 05/29/2013 6:12:32 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

Opponents of the new Minnesota law that could allow thousands of child care providers and personal care workers to unionize are suing to stop it.

The opponents say the legislation allowing the groups to vote on whether to bargain collectively with the state is unconstitutional.

"What the suit says is that the Legislature can't set up an election procedure in which employers are represented by unions. It's just not allowed under federal labor law," said Douglas Seaton, attorney for a group of child care providers opposing the union effort.

But home-based child care providers are exempt from the National Labor Relations Act, said Jennifer Munt, a spokeswoman for AFSCME, which is trying to organize them.

"Child care providers don't fit the traditional union mold, but it makes sense for them to bargain collectively with the state because the state sets the rates and the rules for their businesses," Munt said.

"The state mandates their qualifications and can fire providers who don't meet the requirements laid out in a 6-inch-thick manual."

The push to allow the groups to unionize sparked a fight between the Democratic-Farmer-Labor majority and Republicans in the House and Senate, culminating at the end of the session in close votes in both chambers after a total of 27 hours of debate.

The bill allows two groups of workers to vote on forming a union...

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: afscme; daycare; dayton; democrats; seiu; unconstitutional; unions

1 posted on 05/29/2013 6:12:32 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Heaven forfend parents should have to “provide care” for their own children.


2 posted on 05/29/2013 6:15:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.childcarefreedom.org/


3 posted on 05/29/2013 6:18:04 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Allow or force like they did in Michigan?


4 posted on 05/29/2013 6:18:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lancey Howard

That doesn’t work in our two income economy.


5 posted on 05/29/2013 6:19:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Unfortunately true. We’re taxed and regulated into handing kids over to the “professionals”.


6 posted on 05/29/2013 6:25:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

A multitude of childcare providers have no desire to join a labor union. They are small business owners who value their independence, but they rightfully fear that a union will be forced on them. It’s happened in several other states already, where union membership becomes a condition of licensure, or non-members are forced to pay so-called “fair share” dues to the unions they oppose. At a recent Senate committee hearing, several providers spoke of the “threat” of forced unionization. They expressed frustration that they feel the need to constantly be on guard against the unions partnering with government officials.

http://www.childcarefreedom.org/the-facts/


7 posted on 05/29/2013 6:27:00 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni
they feel the need to constantly be on guard against the unions partnering with government officials.

That's how it happened in Michigan. Fortunately recent events killed it.
8 posted on 05/29/2013 6:28:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Obama wants to unionize many daycare workers by offering pre-K 3 and pre-K 4 to all; this would swell the ranks of “teachers” while breaking the backs of millions more taxpayers. When his masters say “jump”, Odumbo asks, “How high?”


9 posted on 05/29/2013 6:37:29 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

BUMP.


10 posted on 05/29/2013 6:38:10 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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"Child care providers don't fit the traditional union mold."

So true.

Traditional trade unionism provided for long training of apprentices, who were brought into the union when they had mastered their trade.

11 posted on 05/29/2013 6:44:35 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Look for the Union Label, so you know where NOT to shop.

The Socialist Workers' Party (aka, Unions) is alive in well in what used to be America.

NO GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES should be allowed to Unionize, period. There's no reason to be "collectively" represented, and bought by handouts of Tax Dollars, and allowing Public Servants the "RIGHT" to bargain on the Taxpayers' backs is bullshit. If you can't find a REAL job; join a government job.....

Unions have far out-lived their usefullness, and have priced themselves right out of the market on nearly ALL goods and services. That's why Illegals are here, and that's why all our products are moving off-shore, to avoid the taxation, UNIONS, and Regulatory Extortion schemes.

12 posted on 05/29/2013 7:00:06 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: TurboZamboni

MN Democrat Governor Mark Dayton and goose stepping followers Democrat Senate and House passed this even though there were objections. Hope all of these liberal voters are happy when they take their kids to a unionized day care center when it costs them out of their pockets. Companies will be pressed to increase salaries to cover this expense.


13 posted on 05/29/2013 7:23:33 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: traditional1

Very concise and 1000% correct!
Unions are still strenuously trading on their somewhat mythologized past in the first half of the 20th Century,
as being heroic fighters against Evil Capitalism and exploitation.(This is why they’ve always been vulnerable to
exploitation, not by their Capitalist Masters,but by the Communist exploiters: they fell right into the useful idiots
role set up for them by International Socialism/Communism and its global designs) Union spokesmen and that part of their membership that’s ready to get out there and behave like goons, predictably get more extreme and vicious, and lately, much NOISIER,as if in an orgy of overcompensation,
precisely BECAUSE their ranks are steadily dwindling -—this is why they’ve sought and GOTTEN the active support of the current Administration.
In a diametrically opposed process of evolution, yet an oddly similar ugly and twisted transformation over time, the pro-Abort, Reproductive Rights “movement”,which actually BEGAN in a swamp of distorted Social Theory like Eugenics,managed to hold its own for decades and finally grabbed its gold ring, the big political prize of Roe V. Wade, promoting itself by exploiting the benign face of Planned Parenthood.
The Abortion lovers eventually wound up having to deal with the real-life history of Kermit Gosnell, the Unions with the
goons Trumka, Andy Stern and the strident crybabies who tried to oust Walker out of his post as Governor of Wisconsin, but more than anything the embarrasment of owning up to their lack of appeal to most Americans, and their decimated ranks.Ultimately, it’s all about the “Management” ends of both these institutions, and their growing desperation at the image they have to manage in full view of everyone in the Public sphere.In the case of the Unions in general, what used to be called “Labor” has actually BECOME management, in the false dichotomy of what used to be thought of handily as “Labor Vs. Management”, while “Management” has steadily had to accommodate and put up with “Labor”. And NEITHER Labor nor Planned Parenthood would be much of anything at all if they had to fend for themselves in the marketplace, rather than being constantly validated by infusion with “Government” money, by which I mean of course, YOUR money and MINE.


14 posted on 05/29/2013 8:21:58 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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