Posted on 05/30/2013 6:25:47 PM PDT by apoliticalone
NBC 5 and CBS 11 obtained recordings of radio communications between one officer and dispatchers. In it, the officer reported “shots fired” and requested an ambulance.
A dispatcher asked the officer his location, and he responded, “409 Havenwood.”
The officer described what happened. “I don’t know who the guy is,” he said. “The guy came out with a gun. He wouldn’t put the gun down. He pointed it at Hoeppner. Hoeppner fired.”
Becky Haskin, a former Fort Worth City Council member who lives two doors from the Wallers, said when the alarm went off inside the house at 409 Havenwood, the security company called another neighbor when no one answered at the house with the alarm.
That neighbor told the security company to call police because she was concerned about the well-being of the resident, who is in poor health.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/05/30/4892910/family-says-man-killed-by-fort.html#storylink=cpy
....wonder how many of these “I was in fear for my life”.............”he had a gun”...........”he picked it up” cop shootings have occurred in the U.S. in, say, the past ten years?
Is it scores, hundreds or thousands?
And, I say this being generally pro cop. At best, they have an impossible job to do, not to mention dangerous. But,I’m beginning to wonder. It just seems like every day I read about one of these “scared” cops filling some old man full of bullets under questionable circumstances.
Maybe they should put a camera on all cops guns!?
While it won’t bring back the victim, we need to see the Police Retirement fund paying the entire settlement that the victim’s family will inevitably receive, and not the taxpayers. When police start losing their generous pensions because of the actions of idiots on the force, it might start to change attitudes of the boys in blue.
The public needs to decide how these officers and case should be handled, not the local chief or DA. When citizens who pay taxes for the force decide how incompetence or abuse should be treated, the force will start respecting the public. Not until then.
It hasn’t been that long ago that our elder neighbor called, told me he heard something out front and asked for hubby to bring his gun and check it out. Hubby went out the front door with his gun and across our driveway into the neighbors yard. He looked around some and rang the neighbors doorbell. I was still on the phone with the neighbor and told him hubby was out there so he knew it was him ringing the doorbell.
Now I guess that is a really dangerous thing to do. At the time we didn’t even think about it. Was just helping out an elderly neighbor.
Sheesh.
If the cops start shooting at you, is it ok to shoot back?
That danger is manufactured by the training received by the policeman. If you're in deadly danger from the police because you lawfully possess a firearm on your own property, well something ain't right. If the danger is real to an innocent citizen, then shooting the policeman who puts his hand on weapon approaches justifiable self defense.
It's up to the police to defuse the situation without it escalating into bloodshed, BTW. Good luck on that with the "shoot first" approach.
So, will this stupid cop be indicted for murder or given a pass by the local prosecutors? Silly question, but I had to ask.
“Now I guess that is a really dangerous thing to do. At the time we didn’t even think about it. Was just helping out an elderly neighbor.”
Isn’t this how a culture and society gets changed, one incident at a time? I would have done the same thing which is why I posted it.
They don’t want you to think you can protect yourself or your neighbor. They want you to get rid of your guns and hide in a closet unarmed and you must wait and hope that they don’t go to the wrong address.
Of even greater concern are these so-called no knock entries at 3AM often because some low life criminal snitch looking for favors gave them a random or wrong address. When you grab your gun they will take you out in your own house. They may not ID themselves until they’ve broken your door down. Realistically any criminal could also yell “police” as they broke down your door.
We need to fix this from the local level up, and institute a new set of rules where law enforcement will be held personally accountable, and not just taxpayers that are forced to pay the settlements. Also no-knock entries must be allowed only rarely, where it involves saving of citizen lives and not about searching for contraband or drugs.
I certainly agree that there is a training issue. However, one must also recognize that the cops will naturally get very nervous when they come to a strange neighborhood, have difficulty figuring out who are the good guys and who are the bad, and see someone with a gun.
So shoot first, ask questions later, should never be an accepted policy by police. Free and democratic republics do not have police states ever....do they?
No, exactly. However, the SWAT teams are a much more serious threat than one rookie cop who blew his cool. He should pay the penalty, of course, and the whole department should receive improved training.
The cops need to be prosecuted just as would citizens who recklessly shot another.
I’m concerned about the FBI shooting the boston terrorist’s unarmed friend during interrogation. One shot was to the back of the head... It all looks and sounds real fishey.
Obama has no problem putting out hits on “terrorists” and we know that he has targeted at Tea Party protestors and vets who are classified by DHS and the FBI as terrorists.
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