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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.
3 posted on 06/03/2013 12:42:36 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

It's my understanding that President's in the past have said they would abide by the terms of treaties that have been signed and not ratified. However, this is pretty much the President just saying they will direct executive branch agencies to abide by the terms of their own treaty as long as it doesn't conflict with existing law. It has no legal standing. So Obama couldn't, say, direct an agency to create a national registry and then use this unratified treaty as a defense in court.

15 posted on 06/03/2013 12:52:35 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

No, it's not. Pursuant to the government's 40 years of illegal adherence to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, administrative agencies will be committed to not do anything to contravene the treaty, even with just a signature. It's "customary international law."

19 posted on 06/03/2013 12:59:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Personally I don’t care if lurch approves and senators sign...

Those folks that signed the Declaration will lead me from History to Action. lurch be damned

TT


50 posted on 06/03/2013 1:46:40 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Truth is the new pornography)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; LibLieSlayer
They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

Technically.
But Slick Willy forced us into de facto Kyoto Protocol even though the Senate rejected the treaty through the Byrd–Hagel Resolution 95-0.
Don't let your guard down. Don't trust this admin to abide by the will of the people or the Senate.

57 posted on 06/03/2013 2:26:10 PM PDT by Vinnie
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