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To: muawiyah
The actions are actions I would not take, personally. My integrity is important to me.

But that's me. This man felt differently.

And the net result of the actions shed some much-needed light on some very heinous actions by our current administration.

I can condemn the action, I suppose, but I cannot condemn the *result* of the action.

150 posted on 06/09/2013 2:12:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Lazamataz
What were told that to the degree any information from the USA was involved they had to get court warrants and they did so. The foreign part they've never needed warrants for ~

I do not consider it any sort of problem to tap all the phones in the world ~ but by gum if they want to do it to my phone they need a warrant. Snowdon's revelations help only the foreigners who would kill me in my bed.

153 posted on 06/09/2013 2:14:21 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: Lazamataz
I can condemn the action, I suppose, but I cannot condemn the *result* of the action.

I agree. The guy has to go down because rules are rules. But exposing the information means that the regime can be seen for what it is: a one party state without any regard for the 4th amendment. This is not about "privacy" of conversations but the danger and stupidity of gathering vast amounts of data that can never be used for public safety purposes. There are two good reasons not to do it: it will be abused and it will not and did not stop incidents like the Boston bombing.

213 posted on 06/09/2013 3:11:31 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Lazamataz

I was once ordered to come up with a plan to circumvent a treaty our government was putting in place with one of our enemies.


229 posted on 06/09/2013 3:25:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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