Posted on 06/11/2013 3:31:44 PM PDT by Biggirl
VATICAN CITY, June 11 (UPI) -- Pope Francis has confirmed there is a "gay lobby" inside the Vatican, a Catholic website reported. The Curia is the Vatican's bureaucracy.
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No one is excusing sin. You are simply creating straw men in order to attack the Church. You are have a disposition which gives rise to entertaining then moves to action. you are committing the sin of calumny;repent. Is a kleptomaniac guilty of the sin of stealing if the resist temptation? We don't excuse the action because of a disposition, as long as they have the capacity to reason, to know right from wrong. It may work that way in secular courts, but not in the court of the Just Judge.
This isn't anything different from what we're hearing from the gay right activists now-we are to respect them. I'm sorry but I cannot and will not respect sinful behavior. That isn't to say I don't understand why we sin. And I'm certainly sympathetic to their sinful condition because I understand my sinful condition. But do I respect and accept my sinfulness? No. Do you accept and respect your sinfulness? I hope not. How about our condition? Have we reached a point that we accept and respect our sinful condition? One would hope that we are asking God to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Not that we accept our nature with respect.
And that old tired argument that we're just attacking the Church is exactly that-old and tiring.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination,which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill Gods will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lords Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
Love the sinner, hate the sin, sound familiar? The person is more than one aspect of their being. someone born blind is not just a blind person. An alcoholic is more than a drunk. One may also be a husband, writer and a father. The other a pastor. Both are children of God and both are called to surpass their afflictions, biological or behavioural, and emulate Christ, be perfected in Christ.
And that old tired argument that we're just attacking the Church is exactly that-old and tiring.
Simple solution; quit attacking the Church with straw men and foolish arguments.
I did post it in full earlier. There is no reason to keep posting this passage.
This inclination,which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial.
This isn't a disorder. It isn't a "trial" for them. It is sin which they relish. And like any sin, it is open rebellion against God's natural order.
Love the sinner, hate the sin, sound familiar?
Yes it sure does...
Mat_12:34 You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
Unfortunately many Christians think we should just accept ourselves for what we are. Hate the sin-love the sinner. I'm OK, you're OK. That is why many Christians become ensnared in the world. We love the things around us-including institutions which publishes false doctrine. Rather than call it out for what it is, they will defend it. This isn't any different than the Pharisees who pretended to be loving and understand all the while they plotted to kill our Lord Jesus.
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