[muawiyah]

NSA does a lot of stuff ~ the material you're most concerned with is initially gathered by the phone companies themselves. I have condemned the whole darned country for requiring them to maintain billing systems that allow them to collect and consolidate such information.

You must have forgotten that 'STARVE THE BEAST' has as much to do with refusing to demand big corporation/big gub'mnt intrusiveness as it does FIXING the tax system so the money just isn't there for them to waste.

I like to go all the way back to initial causes, and it does me no good to cut off NSA if I leave the Chicoms in place to acquire exactly the same information from all the Telco in the country, surreptitiously or otherwise.

So, why don't you demand we fix the tax system and utility operations? Do you want the Chicoms to continue to be able to access that information? Or don't you want to eliminate the source?,P>I don't think you are conservative enough.

[dirtboy]

You still refuse to blame the fedgov for gathering this information in violation of the 4th Amendment - to the contrary, you present a bastardized interpretation of such. You are a pimp for the usurpers. I don’t debate with anyone so debased. Later.