Posted on 06/15/2013 2:08:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz
5.56mm
I didn't know they were sucking off every bit of information of John Doe, the plumber, and his friend, Ralph, the custodian at the elementary school.
Sure, I figured they had come across me writing prepper articles ‘cause that makes me a suspected domestic terrorist according to Homeland Security and I post on that conservative FR website. Hell, I'm 80, so screw them. But John Doe and Ralph who call their children on their cell phone? No, I did not know absolutely everyone in this nation had every bit of their information sucked into Utah.
Sometimes, on a thread, Laz makes a post of, “I'm so screwed”. He is absolutely right now - we are so screwed.
What exactly is he charged with? I’ve heard a lot of accusations but what “classified” material did he leak? Just because governmental self-preservationist and the punditocrasey have expressed outrage doesn’t mean he disclosed actual classified documents.
Actually, I would argue the opposite. This, and many other heinous actions, have come to light. Observation of the problem is the first step in correcting it. We will need massive civilian participation, of course -- but my editorial is 'doing my little part' in helping to foment that participation.
I'd say we are less screwed today then we were on June the 4th.
The fact that the NSA is doing this, and other related revelations.
Correct; unless of course he is apprehended and charge with Treason -- which is a capital crime.
I am not willing to go so far as calling him a traitor, but he certainly broke his oath (or contract, if you prefer).
It’s like falling down a hole you already knew was there.
You can either scream and flail and bounce about while falling down the hole..
that you already knew was there...
Or tuck and roll and get to the bottom and see what can be done about getting out.
Because the hole is there and we are going into it.
I told my neighbor about this whole spying thing. He doesn’t pay attention. Am I guilty also? As a side notehe didn’t seem surprised.
I'm a contractor, and I did... it went something like...
"I, Tijeras_Slim, pledge allegiance to Hedley Lamarr, and to the evil for which he stands."
Have a bit of information about that. National Security guys say they have traced what he did and suspect or know, I forget which, he used a thumb drive to get the info. out and they know which other info. he got out but they won’t say what that is. So PRISM is not all he has.
If I were Snowden I wouldn’t have trusted a single soul in govt OR the US media. Going to the Brit (left wing) press was probably the only feasible option. If he’d gone to someone in the govt he could have been made ‘disappeared’ without a trace and no one the wiser.
Naw, this guy is the Paul Revere of our generation...
Exactly...The only oath that counts is the one he agreed to, to uphold the Constitution of these here United States of America...
The trick is always figuring out what the most moral course of action is between two immoral choices.
You always have to go back to the most basic principles of right and wrong and either look to natural rights (if you are "small 'l'" libertarian) or the good of the collective (if you are a progressive communist).
If he kept his secrets, just who or what would he be protecting?
If he tells his secrets, who is he protecting?
I didn’t know there was a hole that big. Now, I do. If it stays there, we are still screwed and I doubt it will be closed. People complaining won’t stop it. That is Hussein’s hole and he’s keeping and using it for his Muslim/Communist goal to turn this whole nation Muslim/Communist. I believe that completely. Nothing and nobody will stop Hussein.
If Verizon used someone's metadata to harm that person, in the pre-Obama America a court could find Verizon in violation of privacy and an enormous punitive damages suit confirmed, putting the company into bankruptcy for criminal behavior.
Unless Congress finds what the NSA has done and the regime has exploited to be criminal behavior, it will become the established means of any future oppression by tyrannical regimes.
Rino leaders in the Congress came out swinging in support of their AMKGB and the Dear Reader. I am tired of McStupid and his pals embarrassing me. They are so extreme and out of touch or NSA has a bunch of dirt on them.
“Naw, this guy is the Paul Revere of our generation...”
Is that anything like the frog that actually jumed out of the pot?
Strawman. Traitor or hero? As if those are the only two choices. In any event, anyone who blindly believes everything Snowden has stated is a fool. Same goes for those who blindly believe what the government has stated.
The reality is that 99% of the pundits including the OP don’t have a clue what is true and are trying to pass off speculation as truth. Nonsense.
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