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'Days Of Rambo Are Over': Pentagon Details Women's Move To Combat
npr.org ^ | June 18, 2013 | Bill Chappell

Posted on 06/23/2013 4:17:34 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 06/23/2013 4:17:34 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Foundational cracks are more apparent and are deliberately caused. Transgenders are next


2 posted on 06/23/2013 4:21:46 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall Proverbs 16:18
3 posted on 06/23/2013 4:22:06 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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Saying that he had spoken to colleagues at other services about the matter, Sacolick added, "I can assure you, we are not predisposed to any course of action." The major challenge, Sacolick says, is not how the female service members might perform on physical tests — he said he had been impressed by the physical abilities of female recruits. Instead, the largest hurdle could be handling the social and cultural changes, he said.

Starting from the assumption that that the major issue is social and cultural change strikes me as a major predisposition toward a particular course of action. I would not have made it in special forces, in part because I was not strong enough, even though 30 years ago I was stronger than 90% of the people I knew in the military. Today, decades later, I'm stronger than far more than 90% of military women who might be tracked for special forces. Do they really think that muscle mass and upper body strength are irrelevant?

4 posted on 06/23/2013 4:24:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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The guy is full of crap.

Of course they will lower the Standard.

Women will not be in those units if they do not, and the screaming will not stop until they are in those units.

Any woman who wants to go into Combat should be locked up in an institution for the insane.


5 posted on 06/23/2013 4:29:14 AM PDT by Venturer
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I worked for an Army contractor. One of my fellow employees was a female former Army truck driver who had volunteered for hazardous duty in Iraq and gone back four times. (BTW, she was very butch and had a girlfriend. There wasn’t anything remotely feminine about her.) She had severe depression, which she blamed on the Army. According to her she’d been in numerous fire fights when convoys were attacked. Repeatedly, she blamed her psychological state on the Army. After another such explanation, I asked, how many times did you volunteer to go back? And she confirmed four. Yet it was the Army’s fault that she was suicidal. The Army doctors committed her to a mental institution. That was several years ago and I have no idea how she turned out.

It was apparent she thought she could put up with anything any other soldier could handle. But the reality of the situation, which appeared beyond her grasp, was different.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 4:31:24 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Ok. We’ll see how well this works out for the infantry. Our enemies will be all male troops. Theyll see that we have mixed male and female ground troops. What do you think their response will be? They will see this as a great weakness and it will boost their morale and our female soldiers will be raped when they are taken captive. And how many female soldiers really want to fight on the ground especially when things get real, not like the fantasyland that liberals envision? How many of our male soldiers will our female soldiers be able to pickup and get them out of harms way in the heat of battle? How many male soldiers will be killed trying to be a guardian for their female counterparts because its programmed into their very DNA by God?

Mind you im not saying females can’t be good at combat but the idds are stacked against them from the very start by their sex and the brutal elements in the battlefield. Can i see a female being a good leader, strategist, and manager in the fields as an officer or pilot? Absolutely. I’ve seen it in real life. But we dont need to put women in the combat zone or the sake of PC, equality, fairness, or whatever contrived madness the administration thinks will turn us into better Agenda 21 styled citizens of the future.


7 posted on 06/23/2013 4:34:07 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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When will girls have to sign-up for Selective Service?


8 posted on 06/23/2013 4:36:11 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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There will be two different perceptions;


I dealt with the multiple rapes that occurred and groping complaints in 2003 as an MP during OIF I...there's a place for female soldiers -- and the SF ops or combat is not one of them!
9 posted on 06/23/2013 4:42:03 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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This is insane.


10 posted on 06/23/2013 4:44:13 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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The Obama Administration is going to finish the job that the Johnson Administration started in Viet Nam, destroy the US Armed Forces.

Something all of our other enemies failed to do. Obama is the true Manchurian Candidate.

11 posted on 06/23/2013 4:49:30 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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"Maj. Gen. Sacolick, of the U.S. Special Operations Command Force Management Directorate. Noting that special operations groups are looking for people who can learn other languages and be deployed in a variety of situations, he added, "The defining characteristic of our operators is their intellect."

This politically correct and moronic statement I might add, indicates this General is looking for his 3rd star.

12 posted on 06/23/2013 4:50:25 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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“The defining characteristic of our operators is their intellect.”

The above statement proves beyond any doubt, that you have it absolutely right.

The training scenario of the average special ops guys, has nothing to do with intellect IMHO.

Now, after training it might be a different story.


13 posted on 06/23/2013 4:51:25 AM PDT by wita
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When asked later if the military would develop separate standards for men and women, Aytes and the other officers said no.

Horse feces! The standards are the physical training test, not the MOS test which has no regulation required ability assessment. In fact, the MOS testing ends at the end of the MOS school now, so there is no physical requirement except the service wide one. So your wide ass personnel typist can be a SEAL if your smart enough.

14 posted on 06/23/2013 4:54:34 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Do we want a serious well trained standing Army in the hands of a socialist, heading for totalitarian, government? The smaller and more clown like it becomes the better. The opposite is when socialists go all militaristic like 1930’s Germany.


15 posted on 06/23/2013 4:56:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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A man who has his women do his fighting for him is not much of a man.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 4:57:09 AM PDT by Toaster tank
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What could go wrong?


17 posted on 06/23/2013 5:03:27 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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“....The major challenge, Sacolick says, is not how the female service members might perform on physical tests ......”

No Mr Sacolick that is the bottom line.

If standards call for completing an obstacle course in 18 minutes - and when women go through their time is extended to 21 minutes then the standards were lowered for females.

If standards call for getting over a 6 foot wall - and when women go through they get their own 5 foot wall then the standards were lowered for females.

Do they want to be equal or do they want special rules to allow them to stand with those who passed the higher standards.

So when can we expect females on the Military Academy Football Teams? Oh, yeah, the football teams play to win.


18 posted on 06/23/2013 5:13:29 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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Stop it.
You would think that no women were killed in combat in the last 10 years! That none were wounded in action.
You don’t need to be a Seal to see combat.


19 posted on 06/23/2013 5:13:49 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: BCW
that's Holly Peers in the background...

20 posted on 06/23/2013 5:25:14 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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