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McCain: We’re now set to have the most militarized border since the Berlin Wall
Hotair ^ | 06/25/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/25/2013 12:56:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via the Corner, he’s a little cranky today.

McCain goes after Neb Sen Deb Fischer on border security: "She's so ill-informed…I don't know where to begin."

— Todd Zwillich (@toddzwillich) June 25, 2013

I’m not sure what she said to warrant that but I’ll update when I do. Maybe she said we should “build the danged fence”? You know how much McCain hates that.

This “Berlin Wall” talking point is a clever one for two reasons. One: It signals to amnesty shills that McCain and the Gang of Eight are still on their side, even though they’ve grudgingly agreed to extra border security to please wary conservatives in the House. By choosing this point of reference, he’s presenting the Corker/Hoeven border measures as something essentially sinister; he goes so far as to say that their amendment is “well over sufficient” in terms of how it’ll improve security, which is odd given that CBO estimated the original Gang of Eight bill would reduce illegal immigration by only 25 percent over the next decade. If he was desperate for a reference point he could have chosen Israel’s security fence instead, which is also an imperfect analogy but not as imperfect as maybe he’d like to think. Bottom line: The bill now contains all the improvements a border hawk could ever dream of and more, so how about shutting up and passing the bill through the House?

Two: He’s inadvertently revealing one of the core problems with Corker/Hoeven here. The reason Democrats preferred that amendment to Cornyn’s (also imperfect) amendment is that Cornyn demanded specific quantifiable results in border improvement. Corker/Hoeven doesn’t demand results, it demands greater resources for the problem, most conspicuously in hiring thousands more Border Patrol agents. Ask any border hawk whether they’d rather have a “militarized” border that still allows one or two million illegals through each year or some demilitarized means that keeps all but a few thousand out and they’ll choose the latter every time. If you’d rather throw resources at a problem than demand a solution by whatever means, then you probably also think the “solution” to a new terrorist attack is to hire more TSA agents and stick them at airport checkpoints. That might help at the margins, but it’s in no real sense a carefully thought through response. It’s a political solution insofar as it shows the public that the feds are willing to Do Something, even if what they’re doing won’t end up finally fixing what’s broken. Same here: Democrats categorically refuse to accept hard numerical targets that would make stages of legalization dependent upon actual results at the border, but they’ll happily throw more agents and drones at it if that’ll buy them Republican votes. That’s what McCain’s selling here. We’ll have a militarized border now, even if that doesn’t considerably slow the flow of illegals. What more do you wingnuts want?

Exit flashback quotation: “I am confident that Deb Fischer will reach across the aisle, because if we are in the majority, we will be able to change things.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berlinwall; border; johnmccain; mccain
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1 posted on 06/25/2013 12:56:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

mclame is a liar!


2 posted on 06/25/2013 12:56:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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yep, I love those ships of dreams.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 12:57:44 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SeekAndFind

North and South Korea is most militarized border...and the elements in this law WILL NEVER BE IMPLEMENTED..AND McCain knows it but hes LYING!
FREEGARDS
LEX


4 posted on 06/25/2013 12:57:59 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SeekAndFind

A wall to keep people in looks like a wall to keep people out. They have nothing else in common.

Think “castle walls”. They are an outward manifestation of why countries exist in the first place.


5 posted on 06/25/2013 12:58:20 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I am sure there is a provision to waive any provisions not beneficial to Democrat’s. Pass first...read later.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 12:58:30 PM PDT by Voltage
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To: SeekAndFind

Cindy! Johnny got into the beer again!


7 posted on 06/25/2013 12:58:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama tried and failed. Obama got it done.)
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To: SeekAndFind
McCain, you are lying through your teeth, and you know it.

The Berlin Wall was a formidable physcial barrier that was riddled with machine gun posts and all manner of manned observation and check points TO KEEP THER PEOPLE IN!

We do not (and will not under your "Immigration Plan") even have a fence for most of the border, and we do not have armed observation points, or pillboxes set up specifically to gun down those crossing...and our hope is to KEEP PEOPLE OUT!

Huge difference John...yet you parrot these falsehoods to try and mislead your own constituents and all Americans.

You are pathetic.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

8 posted on 06/25/2013 1:01:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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McCain: We’re now set to have the most militarized border since the Berlin Wall

Call me when OblameA removes the administrations lawsuit against The State of Arizona....douche.

9 posted on 06/25/2013 1:01:39 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Voltage

Must be in my cabin dreaming


10 posted on 06/25/2013 1:02:05 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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What tightening around my throat?


11 posted on 06/25/2013 1:03:10 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SeekAndFind

12 posted on 06/25/2013 1:04:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Screw you, McCain.


13 posted on 06/25/2013 1:07:05 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“She’s so ill-informed…I don’t know where to begin.”

Says the moron who posed for a picture with known terrorists.


14 posted on 06/25/2013 1:07:15 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SeekAndFind
We’re now set to have the most militarized border since the Berlin Wall

It's like McCain has never heard of the DMZ between the Koreas.

15 posted on 06/25/2013 1:07:59 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I wish some reporter would frame your observation in the form of a question. “Senator McCain, are you saying that the U.S. border with Mexico will be more militarized than the border between North and South Korea?” If a reporter asked that question McCain would get mad and blow a gasket.


16 posted on 06/25/2013 1:10:16 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t worry Johnny - it’s just a law. Nothing will ever be implemented. They never intended that it would be. It’s just to calm the We The People. We, by the way, think you are an idiot.


17 posted on 06/25/2013 1:12:52 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

The Korean border is MUCH more militarized than the Berlin Wall ever was. The BW was set up to kill border crossers, not to stop an enemy attack in force.


18 posted on 06/25/2013 1:15:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

AZ PLEASE GET RID OF THIS IDIOT, he;s a prime example of why term limits should be law and why it shows how stupid voters are,. Oh I know that name I’ll vote for him crap


19 posted on 06/25/2013 1:17:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jeff Head

guess he forgot about the Israeli wall, Hell Hadrians wall was more secure than this crap


20 posted on 06/25/2013 1:18:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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