“TM was up to no good that night”
There is no way you could know that. Just because he had a sorted poss does not mean at every waking hour he would be up to no good. GZ was stupid for confronting someone he did not know. What IF TM had been carrying a gun and GZ was the one killed? And look what the outcome for GZ has been to date: for not waiting on the cops to show up and for confronting TM, GZ has messed up his life royally. Even if he stays out of jail, he in no way will have the kind of live he would have had if he had just stayed in the truck. And is will not be TM fault GZ’s life will be meesed up, it will be his own fault.
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Please tell me you're not a man.
From there, based upon what has been reported in the media and so far at trial, we can infer the following: If Martin were running, that means he's running home. So if Zimmerman followed Martin, that means he's heading towards Martin's residence. But from what we know, based upon Zimmerman's statements and trial testimony, is that the confrontation between them took place near Zimmerman's vehicle, not towards Martin's residence. That lends credence to Zimmerman's statements that as he's walking back to his vehicle, Martin jumped out of the shadows and asked why he was following him, meaning Martin confronted him.
I am interested in knowing what evidence/logic informs you that something other than this happened.
I will agree with you that it is unfortunate that Zimmerman left his vehicle. But as the trainer for the Neighborhood Watch program stated, they train people to follow suspects, not confront them. It appears that Zimmerman did not get out of his vehicle because he was looking for a confrontation, but because he was trying to see where Martin was running so he could tell the police. Again, it appears that he lost sight of him, then was confronted by Martin as he walked back to his vehicle. If these facts bear out (and as stated before, I'm interested in knowing why you think the facts would not bear this out) then I can see no wrongdoing from Zimmerman.
What??? What is that, Ebonics? Sure would explain your posts on this thread.
When you claim self defense, all one has to prove is that their life was in danger. How the fight got started is irrelevant to the issue of self defense. There was a fight and that is a fact. No one is disputing that. According to GZ at some point there was a struggle for the gun and he pulled the trigger. Since there was only one shot, and the forensics of the bullet, shell casings, and the gun indicate there was a struggle for the gun, the GZ claim of self defense is valid.
The profiling is a BS issue.
The following is a BS issue.
How the fight started is a BS issue.
The severity of GZ’s injuries is BS.
The forensics don’t lie.
You are truly at a fact deficit. You are repeating the media’s uninformed, racist talking points which clearly shows you’ve not done any due diligence.
If you had, you’d know the dispatcher asked him where TM was going and THAT’S why GZ got out of the car as you couldn’t drive where TM went.
TM confronted GZ, not the other way around. Get your facts right or prepare to be set straight.
You've got it backwards. TM confronted GZ. GZ did not confront TM.
Of course, you can argue that GZ was stupid to place himself in a position where such a confrontation was likely. And you'd be right. But that has no bearing on the case.
What IF TM had been carrying a gun and GZ was the one killed?
Interesting hypothetical. TM would probably get off on a claim of self-defense against an assault by a menacing stranger. The 911 audio would work in his favor. The prosecution would need strong evidence to rebut his self-defense claim beyond a reasonable doubt. E.g., witnesses who saw TM initiate the violence in response to a question such as, "Do you live here?".