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Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 1, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; sanford; skittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: RummyChick

Hell....I’ve lived in this complex for 20 years and I can’t tell you the name of the next street over.


1,681 posted on 07/01/2013 10:02:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

actually no..the arm doesn’t need to come up...

if Martin was skulking around ...seeing GZ in and out of the car..and moving around...it’s possible he saw it...probable???? I don’t know.

“O’MARA: Had the jacket been ridden up in any form the gun would have been exposed, right? “


1,682 posted on 07/01/2013 10:03:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

O’MARA: And by this movement —

SMITH: The hands going up and the leaning over.

O’MARA: OK. So like that?

SMITH: Right. O’MARA: And in just doing that movement, that was enough of a movement where the gun was exposed, correct?

SMITH: Correct.

O’MARA: The jacket didn’t cover the gun by more than a couple, few inches, right?

SMITH: I don’t believe so.

O’MARA: OK. Any movement up of the jacket, even that small movement that he did by leaning over exposed the gun, right?

SMITH: Correct.

O’MARA: Had the jacket been ridden up in any form the gun would have been exposed, right?


So yes, if Zimmerman walked around the complex holding his arms in the air and bending his body, the gun would have been exposed. Lots of CCW holders, like myself, do not walk around with our arms in the air...


1,683 posted on 07/01/2013 10:03:23 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Jeff Winston

Since we were happily married for 45 years, (at least most of the time) I love your sense of humor.

Sure, we women submit when it doesn’t really matter, but when it really does?

Watch out, husbands!

A good wife thinks carefully, and doesn’t mess with a good man when he is also thinks seriously about what is in the best long term for the family unit.

Unfortunately, sometimes it doesn’t work that way.

Then we have big societal “puppy troubles” - when men and women act like spoiled adolescent brats, instead of responsible adults who each fulfill their respective roles, considering the needs of the family unit for safety, food, security, and nurturing, beyond their own personal desires.

It isn’t all that complicated, if you seriously think about it. Dump modern technology, and it all becomes very clear.

Must go to bed now, if I want to be as bright-eyed and bushy tailed as can be expected at 8AM central time.

(Us old folks have a seriously hard time getting our tails all “bushy” so early, mostly because the hairs stop growing from our tails, and start growing from our noses, ears, upper lips, and other unexpected places.)

You have lots to look forward to, kids. Helps to keep a sense of humor about it all.

See you in the morning!


1,684 posted on 07/01/2013 10:03:35 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: RummyChick
I think O’mara can overcome but it is absolutely ridiculous to think O’mara should just let it go because it isn’t important.

They adjourned for the day, very late in the day, and Serino is up again with O'Mara for tomorrow morning.

How can you be so sure he let it go, when he's not finished ?

The Jury had the phrase "he could only be telling the truth" as a last thought to sleep on, and tomorrow they will be fresh and ready for more cross where that issue is brought out. Also , O'Mara might ask Mr. Serino just why he is not a Lead Detective anymore.

1,685 posted on 07/01/2013 10:04:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: eastforker; RummyChick

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/police-video-seems-to-show-trayvon-shooter-uninjured-20120330-1w23h.html

Here’s some photos of Z in the police station. Clearly his jacket is long enough (6” to 8”) to conceal a pistol in a inner waist belt holster such as his. And seeing as how it was raining, I’m guessing the jacket was zipped up at the time of the attack. But not sure. Although mine is still well covered by an unzipped jacket.


1,686 posted on 07/01/2013 10:06:43 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Hell....I’ve lived in this complex for 20 years and I can’t tell you the name of the next street over.

Ditto. 23 years for me and I don't know the name of the street above me.

1,687 posted on 07/01/2013 10:08:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.ca)
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To: Sacajaweau
We’re assuming that Tray bought one bag of skittles.

How many bags of Skittles does it take to make one purple drank ?

Is there a recipe ?

One Juice Drink, two bags of Skittles, one bottle of Robitussin ?

How many does that serve, 1 or 2 ?

1,688 posted on 07/01/2013 10:10:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Sacajaweau

I just asked my wife. She doesn’t know it either.


1,689 posted on 07/01/2013 10:13:52 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.ca)
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To: dragnet2

The sealed records of Saint Skittle,
Would necessitate acquittal


1,690 posted on 07/01/2013 10:15:47 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: 21twelve

Thank you, that video confirms my original statement. TM would have never been able to see his weapon.


1,691 posted on 07/01/2013 10:16:15 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: RummyChick
".... ia person can feel threatened without a gun...."

Of course. But there's no indication TM shared GZs "fear" in any way. He was playing up the thug show not just for GZ but that precious little thing he was on the phone with. If Martin was afraid he would have gone home.

1,692 posted on 07/01/2013 10:19:13 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: RummyChick
The cop already gave the conclusion....GZ was telling the truth in everything he said.

Questioning and clarifying is two very different things.

Attorneys repeat and repeat and repeat....

1,693 posted on 07/01/2013 10:19:41 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RummyChick

He never lost it. That’s ridiculous...


1,694 posted on 07/01/2013 10:20:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jjsheridan5

I like it


1,695 posted on 07/01/2013 10:21:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RummyChick
Sorry.

I posted because yours was the last post on the live thread. I heard Savage go off on a wild idea about Zimmerman tonight, and thought I'd ask the followers here if they heard it.

-PJ

1,696 posted on 07/01/2013 10:22:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: RummyChick
But you do know that he was not the aggressor...Jenteal already told you that and in doing so confirmed what GZ said.

The act of getting out of a car is not an aggressive act.

1,697 posted on 07/01/2013 10:22:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: moehoward
Not to mention the fact that Trayvon was supposed to be BABYSITTING Chad. Tracy and Brandy weren't there. Allegedly they were out to dinner.

Trayvon was supposedly in a hurry, and kept questioning Rachel about whether the 'game' was on yet. Rachel said that Trayvon told her he was in his 'dads' back yard. He had to leave it to encounter Zimmerman.

1,698 posted on 07/01/2013 10:26:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

I think the words to sleep on are “Thank God”....And I’m betting those are the first words we hear out of O’Mara on Monday.....”Thank God”....Hell, I could write this brief...


1,699 posted on 07/01/2013 10:27:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mr Rogers

See my 1686. The jacket covers his belt by 6 to 8 inches while at a normal, standing position. His gun would STILL have been covered even if he had been walking around like Frankenstein.

Of course that contradicts dee dee’s testimony that Martin told her about the creepy ass cracker with a gun... Oh wait. I guess Martin somehow forgot to mention that little detail.


1,700 posted on 07/01/2013 10:30:45 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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