Skip to comments.Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.
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before they start why was he demoted and why is he seating anything.Was he in defense of Z?
Thanks for the thread
Prosecution will try to have 2 detectives say Zimmerman’s having gotten out of his truck has something to do with alleged culpability. Defense should be able to shut that nonsense down without too much trouble.
I just wanted to thank you for setting up these threads. They really help out people like me with slow internet connections.
STFU Nancy Grace you screeching, agenda-rabid harridan. CNN hires hacks.
Four Live-Streaming Links:
Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:
Click Orlando http://www.clickorlando.com/news/trayvo index.html
Orlando Sentinel (Fox 35 live stream) http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc on-martin/
WESH http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florid index.html
cfnews http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf artin.html
MyfoxOrlando http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/23 von-martin
TruTV/InSession link: http://www.superusvoxtv.com/index.php/speciality/tru-tv
I have to keep remembering the standard of proof.
9 or 930 AM ?
My understand was that a majority of local law enforcement supported Zimmerman?
I’m starting to wonder if after deciding to prosecute this place they realized there was nothing there, but politically couldn’t withdraw it. So they said OK, we’ll show you how weak this case is, here are the prosecution witnesses . . .
do I have it right that Serino initially made statements not so favorable to GZ then changed his story that he was being forced to arrest him?
Only the ignorant and the biased would believe that a neighborhood watchman deserves to be charged with murder because something violent happened (no matter what that violent thing was) because he was not in his truck but was on foot watching a suspicious person. I’ve heard callers to talk shows repeat that allegation ad nauseum and I am sick of it. I hope it is so blown out of the water it never comes down again.
Thanks for the thread. Ready to roll!!
He has told conflicting stories but on the witness stand he will have to settle on just one story.
He was the lead investigator who eventually recommended a charge of manslaughter for the flimsy reason that GZ should have stayed in his truck, all the while prosecutors were saying that there was not enough evidence to bring a charge.
Later he told the FBI that he was being pressured by some in the department to bring charges. When put on the stand he will have to name names.
No, they were counting on the race card. The jury pool was not favorable to the persecution and the defense was able to pick off a few racists. I think the persecution is still hoping to draw a race card because that is all they have.
If defense does a stark and thorough enough job of debunking it, it will go far in quelling some of the rabidity driving the calls for riots and murders of random whites upon acquittal.
I think they know they have a weak to zero case so what I believe they are doing is trying to reduce the impact of the defense witnesses by calling them as prosecution witnesses....kind of a 3 card monte play: “this is not what you think you’re hearing, they are prosecution witnesses and they bolster our case.
What truly galls me is this case is brought as a second degree...IMO, if they cannot prove that, he should be acquitted, no reduction to some kind of manslaughter or such just to appear non racist.
Iching, sorry about last nights thread pull; I was reading what you posted and was very interested in it. It’s disappointing that some here attack those that post things without looking at what it is or concern. It’s no wonder that posters at FR are at a fraction of where it used to be.
Somewhat hostile here at times and yet, it’s a fantastic site. I wish people would chill out.
It’s already rolling, they are setting up evidence exhibits in the courtroom and audio is running:
it better me O’mara doing the cross examination
Probably not exactly, he tried to (somewhat successfully) derail the careers of some of them over the Sherman Ware case in 2010, when he rallied the community against SPD officers and higher-ups on behalf of a homeless black man that had been badly beaten outside a Sanford bar by the son of an SPD supervisor, who was never arrested nor charged. Cruel irony, eh. Video of the beating is on YouTube. Zimmerman is NOT who the media has portrayed him to be. That’s why you never learned of the Sherman Ware case.
I do sense that the karma will come all the way back around and Z will be freed. This sham trial is blowing up in the rabid racists’ faces.
Yup. Same thing occurred to me over the weekend.
Dee Dee's...creepy-ass cracker...remark set the tone for that event. And her statements that it was just a fight blew me away.
IIRC, Tray had been to the apartment where he was staying many times. I'm inclined to think he knew who Zimmerman was and that's why he wasn't afraid to approach him. In fact, wouldn't be surprised if Tray was the impetus for one of Zimmerman's earlier calls to the "hot line".
That already backfired on them, it has been shown by Precious’ turn on the stand that it was Trayvon who racially profiled Zimmerman, not the other way around as the bogus charging affidavit claims.
Not after DeeDee’s cracker comment.
Never happen. Martin could rise from the grave and declare that he deserved what he got and the same ones would still call for riots. This [racial discord] is their bread and butter and over the years they have made a good living from it. As a sidebar, self professed preachers such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharption who profain the Holy name of God on a weekly basis need to spend a lot of time in cold storage. When they get to where they are going to spend eternity, they can use the cold.
I'll be tied up much of the day and unable to post witness testimony summaries, so if someone else could, please.
They already played that card but it was trumped by the Creep Ass Cracker card.
I was referring to the jury which depends on what the makeup of the pool is. I’ve been on jury duty where the defense lawyer looked over the pool and decided to plead. LOL. The jury GZ drew should be very favorable to him. Just the luck of the draw.
let them be the savages they want to be
let them burn down businesses homes
let them loot the village-
white people stay in your home with your guns and let them run amuck.
MAYBE this will finally get people to wake up
either Martin’s mom gave him up or she lost custody when Martin was a baby.
She is not the steller mother she is trying to portray
Wonder if details of that case will be presented
someone else or anyone, please step in.
Always appropriate on any court-related thread!
Just for fun I’m reposting some tweets from the first day of trial from a lawyer who’s been following this case pretty closely. These have also been appropriate every day since:
#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: State to charge all of its own witnesses with second degree murder
#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: West to do rest of cross while breathing helium, to “lift State’s spirits”
#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: Court clerk tearfully admits accidentally switching witness lists
#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: Sheriffs collect belts, shoelaces from prosecution team
#Zimmerman Trial: State wondering if they should be dialing 911 or non-emergency number to deal with witness
Note in that picture that the ME has the tattoos on the wrong arm. Tattoos are on the left arm from the pictures of him.
State calls Hirotaka Nakasone
West objects — sidebar.
You’ve got that right! They keep saying it over and over. I heard Geraldo say it was abominable that Zimmerman followed Trayvon but he will be acquitted because that is the law. B.S. (legal analyst on WFTV just said “It isn’t over yet. If the jury believes any part of what the star witness said such as Trayvon saying ‘Get off me’ then it could be enough to convict because it makes GZ the aggressor. Like it or not.” He is hoping so badly that there is a conviction. Logic would tell me the aggressor would get in the most damage to the other person. OK. Game over! GZ told Hannity he used his gun because he thought he may pass out and TM went for his gun. That is backed up by GZ telling the responding officer he was feeling light headed.
That comment didn’t help. That witness was the Scheme teams desperate attempt to indict GZ because there is no cross exam in a deposition. Then she imploded on the stand. It was a land mine that West carefully diffused.
Maybe he can tell us what wet grass sounds like ...
Where is Kevin Costner or the other attorney. Has this guy questioned any other witnesses??
He was the defense witness for the 911 tape hearing whot testified against the voodoo science experts.
Now they want him to testify for them to probably say that there is no scientific way to determine who is screaming on the tape.
Before they badgered him — now they will sweet talk him.
7:13.40pm - George ends his NEN call
7:15.43pm - Witness #8 call ends with Trayvon
7:16.10pm - Witness #2 calls 911
7:16.55pm - Gun shot is heard on the 911 call of Witness #2
27 seconds = time from Trayvon's phone disconnect to 911 call by Witness #2
72 seconds = time from Trayvons phone disconnect until gun shot is heard on 911 call