Do Young C-14 (Carbon-14) Results Reflect Contamination? (article)

Institute for Creation Research ^ | July 2013 | Jake Hebert, Ph.D.

[MrB]

If you’re doing it right, with the right mindset,
science should lead you closer to the truth, which
actually is define objectively by the Creator.

[MrB]

Actually, from a creation v evolution point of view, 6 or 100 thousand years is irrelevant.

Without the magic fairy dust of BUUUHHHLYUNS of years,
it is impossible that molecules to man happened.
(impossible even with the MFD, but that’s not the point)

[MrB]

Molten is molten, and the “clock” starts when it cools.

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

Seems to me that we need to know how many AMS datings have been performed. This says there's been "around 70" anomalous results in 14 years, but that's only 5 a year. I'm not finding an estimate of how many tests are performed--is that 20% of the total? 10%? 1%? The Livermore website says, "All over the world, AMS is still used primarily to count carbon-14 in archaeological and geologic samples for dating purposes....Livermore performs radiocarbon dating and many other forms of AMS 24 hours a day, 7 days a week." That certainly doesn't sound like 5 anomalous results year is terribly significant.

My other question is, if the Earth is young, why don't all samples show a high level of C-14? If nothing's that old, why are these results anomalous?

[G Larry]

Oh, I’m all about Creation!

I just don’t buy the 6,000 yr. “young earth” version.

[American in Israel]

Oh hi Tod,

Go ahead and cling to your shrinking options. I will not bother trying to get some sense in you after the Monsanto thread. Need to clean fingernails.

[tacticalogic]

For example, when the fresh lava dome at Mount St. Helens was only ten years old, it showed a radioisotope age estimate of 340,000 years!

What isotopes? Accuracy within 340,000 years on an isotope with a half-life of 3.4 billion years is +- .01%.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Shrinking options? Tell me how old the Earth is if carbon dating is only 90% as accurate as they thought.

[American in Israel]

Tod, where did you get that 90% figure, from your hope chest?

Tod, there is a God. And he is even smarter than Tod. So don’t think you are going to argue your way out of your life decisions.

Best clean up the act Tod, rather than represent your self in the Court of God and try to outsmart the Judge.

Jesus is a defense lawyer Tod...

[Toddsterpatriot]

Tod, where did you get that 90% figure, from your hope chest?

What, no answer? LOL!

Tod, there is a God. And he is even smarter than Tod.

Yes He is. So how old is the Earth?

[BrandtMichaels]

101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth

Seems there are lots of types of measurements available and they all have the same problem. Do you actually know the ratio of father and daughter elements at inception for any given natural clock?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you actually know the ratio of father and daughter elements at inception for any given natural clock?

Probably not exactly. So how old is the Earth?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Thanks for the link.

DNA extracted from bacteria that are supposed to be 425 million years old brings into question that age, because DNA could not last more than thousands of years.

Why can't DNA last more than thousands of years?

[tacticalogic]

Do you actually know the ratio of father and daughter elements at inception for any given natural clock?

Does anyone "actually know" anything they didn't witness in person?

[BrandtMichaels]

DNA is living code - at least while we’re living. Once you die the required environment to maintain DNA structure is not there and the laws of entropy and decay take over. Just brings up another chink in the armour of evolutionary defense, how old are dinosaurs who still have partial DNA intact along with soft tissue and blood cells? Things that make you go hhhmmmm.

Not that modern day evolutionists wouldn’t like you to doubt how long DNA lasts though...

[BrandtMichaels]

The majority of the factual and scientific evidence favors young ages - not millions nor billions - even radio isotope decay has issues, assumptions, anomalies and major problems. Many confuse apparent time lapse with actual measured time lapse. Many are also duped by mainstream groupthink, [hint- which ideas generate the best money flow and carnival show].

For me personally I take the Biblical evidence first and foremost as most accurate, authoritative, and trustworthy. It’s not hard to see why others wear blinders to any facts that contradict long ages though [the Bible tells believers so].

[MrB]

At creation, was Adam young or mature?

[BrandtMichaels]

Making the most of research, study, critical thinking and observations can go a long way esp. since knowledge builds on knowledge so yes you can actually know a lot which you’ve never witnessed. Simple as ‘truth always has a certain ring to it.’

[bert]

ICR...... worse than Debka

[tacticalogic]

Making the most of research, study, critical thinking and observations

What does your 'critical thinking' tell you about the probability the vast majority of Uranium samples from all over the world being very young, but contaminated with exactly the same ratios of exactly the same daughter elements by chance?