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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0
Various sources | Wednesday, July 3, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn

The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.

A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:

Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were “unacceptable.”

The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: “We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypt’s first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the country’s problems.

Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.


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To: little jeremiah

I am sure you are wrong.
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Most leftists, especially the hard core idealistic ones, are Obama believers. I am surrounded by liberals at work and while they don’t have quite the same level of unbrideled enthusiasm they once had, they are still true believers. They will never denounce him for to do so would be to admit they themselves made a very big mistake. At least the Egyptians acknowlege and deal with their mistakes.


701 posted on 07/03/2013 4:03:23 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: melancholy

Sigh...yes.


702 posted on 07/03/2013 4:05:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I had a GF from Iran she was prob late 30’s and said her family had to leave Iran because of economic failure and Kohmeni rule. She said life under the Shah was much better!


703 posted on 07/03/2013 4:06:25 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

Definitely. Hub’s co-worker came from a wealthy family, of course it was all left behind.


704 posted on 07/03/2013 4:10:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yea was interesting to listen to her life story. She loves her country as much as we do ours but has vowed to never return.
Unless the political wind changes.


705 posted on 07/03/2013 4:14:04 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

Is this a good place to say that Shepard Smith is a moron?


706 posted on 07/03/2013 4:18:52 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: little jeremiah; maggief; onyx; hoosiermama

I am not shocked that he would say this, what a brotherhood ass kisser.

Presidents statement

As I have said since the Egyptian Revolution, the United States supports a set of core principles, including opposition to violence, protection of universal human rights, and reform that meets the legitimate aspirations of the people. The United States does not support particular individuals or political parties, but we are committed to the democratic process and respect for the rule of law. Since the current unrest in Egypt began, we have called on all parties to work together to address the legitimate grievances of the Egyptian people, in accordance with the democratic process, and without recourse to violence or the use of force.
The United States is monitoring the very fluid situation in Egypt, and we believe that ultimately the future of Egypt can only be determined by the Egyptian people. Nevertheless, we are deeply concerned by the decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Morsy and suspend the Egyptian constitution. I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsy and his supporters. Given today’s developments, I have also directed the relevant departments and agencies to review the implications under U.S. law for our assistance to the Government of Egypt.

The United States continues to believe firmly that the best foundation for lasting stability in Egypt is a democratic political order with participation from all sides and all political parties —secular and religious, civilian and military. During this uncertain period, we expect the military to ensure that the rights of all Egyptian men and women are protected, including the right to peaceful assembly, due process, and free and fair trials in civilian courts. Moreover, the goal of any political process should be a government that respects the rights of all people, majority and minority; that institutionalizes the checks and balances upon which democracy depends; and that places the interests of the people above party or faction. The voices of all those who have protested peacefully must be heard – including those who welcomed today’s developments, and those who have supported President Morsy. In the interim, I urge all sides to avoid violence and come together to ensure the lasting restoration of Egypt’s democracy.

No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end it must stay true to the will of the people. An honest, capable and representative government is what ordinary Egyptians seek and what they deserve. The longstanding partnership between the United States and Egypt is based on shared interests and values, and we will continue to work with the Egyptian people to ensure that Egypt’s transition to democracy succeeds.


707 posted on 07/03/2013 4:19:03 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink; maggief; melancholy; caww; MestaMachine; kristinn

“You said it Maggie, the question is what will happen to all the Brotherhood members in the Justice Dept, Homeland Security, and the CIA? Oh wait I mean advisor’s. it will be funny when the the Egyptian regime ask for them to return home.”
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“If Egypt can remove its Muslim Brothers, so must we. An urgent investigation is needed on their penetration of our govt and influence on it.”

Frank Gaffney, Facebook page (Not certain this link gets you to the quote. I don’t do FaceBook)

https://www.facebook.com/frankgaffneyjr/posts/3039249196671#!/frankgaffneyjr

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/
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Back to EGYPT.....

Jennifer Griffin (Fox, The Five):

“The president was in the Oval Office when General Cesi (?) made the announcement that the coup had taken place and that Pres Morsi was no longer president. He was there. He was watching.

“We understand there are reports that the Director of the CIA and the Joint Chiefs are meeting over there with the President.

“Because the President, President Obama, is now in an awkward position. What does he say in the wake of this militarily-engineered coup? What does the WH say at this point?....

“I think the most significant thing that we have seen in the last few hours is that the first opposition leader to stand up and speak-—the hand-picked opposition leader to speak after Gen Sisi (?) made the announcement was ElBaradei.

“He of course used to be the head of the IAEA. He is generally accepted by the West as the most secular and Western-oriented leader. He is somebody who the West would be comfortable dealing with.

“And really, If you look at the root of the reason that these 30+ mil people are in the streets in Egypt, it is not only about Pres Morsi and the MB and their concern about sharia law, but it’s about the economy. It’s the economy stupid, and that is the bottom line in Egypt, as it is in most countries.

“And the fact that the Egyptian military chose ElBaradei first to speak suggests that they do want to put a foot forward and get the economy back on track.

“It is so very important that the Army itself did not put a General in charge, though it is really arguable that this was not a milirary coup.
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BTW: From her subsequent remarks, it sounds like Jennifer had been speaking with Pentagon sources.

FOX Five Live commentator asks Griffin about next elections and points out:

“Isn’t the MB just going to rise again. They control the mosques; they control the unions; some are even in the Egyptian military. What do you think?

Griffin: “Certainly the MB is the most organized political party in Egypt. Unless they are BANNED from participating, and at this point they have not been, then they will participate in upcoming elections. The question is when will those elections be held....

“It is significant that they chose the head of the Constitutional Court and a group of technocrats to run the country in the interim.

“Clearly they are going to have to most likely rewrite the Constitution because the Constitution under Morsi and the MB was looking like it was keeping the MB in power-—so they are going to have to do some institution-building before they call those elections.
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THOUGHTS???


708 posted on 07/03/2013 4:19:32 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm; TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; Jet Jaguar

Ping to Presidents statement in 707. Comments, is he saying put him back in power?


709 posted on 07/03/2013 4:22:43 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: caww


Beautiful!!

710 posted on 07/03/2013 4:23:46 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: thouworm

My main thought is ask all those people still in the square if the MB can ever return to power!
That will be your answer.


711 posted on 07/03/2013 4:24:07 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: crosslink

President Bystander has spoken. Weak beer from a Limp Noodle.


712 posted on 07/03/2013 4:25:29 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: thouworm

MB is like a lizard that keeps regrowing its tail. To get rid of it one must remove its head. Not sure Mosi is the true head !


713 posted on 07/03/2013 4:25:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: crosslink; thouworm; maggief; caww; hoosiermama

Thanks so much.
I just returned home rom errands.
This all happened so quickly.
God bless the freedom loving Egyptians!


714 posted on 07/03/2013 4:25:56 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: crosslink

He’s a bitter, cowardly snake and the Egyptians hate him, (too).


715 posted on 07/03/2013 4:26:39 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Your welcome onyx, you and your input is a blessing to Freerepublic. Happy independence weekend. I am off to a block party.


716 posted on 07/03/2013 4:28:31 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: thouworm; crosslink; maggief; melancholy; caww; MestaMachine; kristinn

The MB leaders are being arrested. The MB “fighters” are being killed.

All Islamist political parties will be outlawed as they should.

My slogan:

READ MY LIPS, NO POLITICAL ISLAM, EVER!

That’s the most powerful agreement between ALL opposition factions.

No way all those two-bit media experts know anything. I don’t mean the FOX reporters, they just repeat the “experts’ opinions.”


717 posted on 07/03/2013 4:31:18 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: crosslink

“I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsy and his supporters”
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Yes, he wants Morsi and MB to be put back in power.

Transparently, of course.


718 posted on 07/03/2013 4:31:44 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: onyx

Amen to that onyx. Hopefully it will help expose and remove the MB from the USA


719 posted on 07/03/2013 4:32:34 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: pax_et_bonum

That’s the way I read it,I will withhold money until you give him a seat at the table. I hope he doesn’t send troops but I wouldn’t put it past him.


720 posted on 07/03/2013 4:33:12 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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