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1 posted on 07/07/2013 6:01:04 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Ping


2 posted on 07/07/2013 6:02:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That crew really screwed the pooch.


3 posted on 07/07/2013 6:04:57 PM PDT by grobdriver
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a late term abortion and they feel the pain


4 posted on 07/07/2013 6:06:08 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And in related news, at least one of the 2 fatalities was killed by the rescue firetruck!?! See: http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/state&id=9162574


6 posted on 07/07/2013 6:11:19 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Crew under-experienced in visual approaches or lack of manual flying skills, IMHO.

To you GPS addicted pilots, if the ground glide slope station is inop, does your GPS provide you with an accurate glide slope reading?

(In my time a GPS approach was a non-precission approach). Regardless, the conditions were visual but I’ve known too many pilots to rely on instruments and autopilot too much even on severe clear days.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 6:14:36 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 23s NEW: Pilot of Asiana jet ,that crashed at SFO, was in training; it was his first flight to the airport with the jet
14 posted on 07/07/2013 6:33:08 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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From seeing the video and hearing some of the recent speed reports, I am putting money on that the crew fell asleep and woke too low and too slow. The pLane was in full stall and when they tries more power and a pull up they were too close to the ground so they tail in, belly crunch and then wing roll. It is a classic case


15 posted on 07/07/2013 6:38:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

From what I’m reading - the sink rate was too fast plus they added power, pulled back and did a departure stall - same as that 757 out of Porto Rica years back ....


22 posted on 07/07/2013 7:00:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It could be that the crew thought that they were coupled to a glide path that was in fact out of service OR that they had not selected correctly on the auto throttle/auto land or that they were just really damn tired and unable to function. It is more than likely that they had been awake for possibly 24 straight hours when you count the time from when they left home/hotel until the time of the accident. They had flown all night, in the dark or twilight on the northern great circle and found themselves having to perform the most difficult part of their job just when their bodies were telling them it was bedtime back home. I have flown many a Red Eye and I guarantee you that you are not at your best after a 12 or 13 hour all niter. Think about that the next time you jump on that 14 hour non stop from LAX to Sidney or even worse the non-stop from Singapore to JFK.


26 posted on 07/07/2013 7:09:56 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Maintain Thy Airspeed, Lest The Ground Rise Up And Smite Thee.


38 posted on 07/07/2013 7:39:37 PM PDT by kik5150
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They managed to get the plane in a position of reverse command. The harder you pull back the faster it sinks.


40 posted on 07/07/2013 7:42:15 PM PDT by kik5150
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