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Townhall.com ^ | July 8, 2013 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 07/08/2013 7:07:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

OK … I’ll admit it. I did get a little testy on Twitter (@Talkmaster) Saturday afternoon while watching coverage of the crash landing of that Asiana 777 in San Francisco. There’s an explanation.

My first hint at a problem at SFO was a video a follower sent me of the smoke from the burning aircraft. I immediately went to the usual sites on the Internet and TV to see what was going on. Nothing. Nobody had a clue. Twitter beat out the big boys.

Eventually, though, the coverage started to break on CNN and Fox News. I chose Fox. This was the only way I could be assured that Piers Morgan wasn’t going to be part of the coverage. Right off the bat it became clear that Fox was relying on reports from people who barely new the difference between a DC7 and a 777. The errors and impossibilities in the reporting were laughable, so I switched to CNN. Not much better there … and loyalties are loyalties … so it was back to Fox.

We need Fox News. Oh, I know Fox drives the proggies nuts. They’re so used to having a lock on the principal news outlets that they can scarcely believe there are people out there reporting from a different perspective. Without Fox News we never would have known of Obama’s failed gun running program Fast & Furious. Fox News kept us in the loop on Benghazi. While other networks, broadcast and cable, were telling us the story on the IRS scandal was pretty much over, Fox was still revealing new angles; including the fact that the orders to drop the IRS hammer on conservative organizations came from the Obama junta.

I’m persona non grata on Fox these days. Maybe it was that sports coat I wore on Cavuto. Perhaps they think I was the one who goaded Beckel into dropping that F-bomb. Maybe they didn’t appreciate me telling folks that although Shep Smith is an incredible anchor, he really is quite a jerk in person. Who knows? I’m retired, and I’m fine with it. The makeup made my face break out anyway. But I still watch Fox News (right up until Hubcap O’Reilly at 8:00) and I revel in the way they clobber CNN and annihilate MSNBC in the ratings.

So here’s the problem. Fox News is attacked constantly by the left because they dare to report what the leftist media won’t. To repel these attacks, Fox News has to work harder than most to retain its reputation for accuracy in news reporting. People who hear absurdities solemnly presented in the coverage of a major aviation story are very likely to lose confidence in the political side of Fox reporting as well.

Just what mistakes did various Fox reporters make this weekend? Well here’s a few:

Part of my angst here is surely due to my own personal interest in aviation. I studied aerospace engineering. I’ve been a pilot for about 35 years. I’ve heard liberals like Obama demonize the evil “rich” people who own and fly their own private aircraft, even though the average value of a single-engine piston airplane flying today is less than the cost of a new bass rig.

Aviation and the flying public are poorly served by people who know nothing about the subject engaging in wild and mindless speculation when an incident happens. Fox, CNN and the rest of the broadcast media can, and should, do better.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; crash; foxnews; sanfrancisco
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To: Kaslin

I heard one ditzy reporter say, the plane landed on runway 28”el”, not runway 28 Left.

She obviously had no idea what runway numeric (the number indicates the approximate magnetic heading) or letters, the “L”, “R”, and “C” (center) mean.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 7:48:28 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Kaslin
The question is why did the chief pilot allow him to fly it.

This was part of the standard training process that has served all the airlines that use the 777 well for the last eighteen years. The pilot had only 43 hours of flight time on the 777 and was obviously trying to get more. One other thing, of the five or ten hours of flying credit that he (or she) would have gotten for this flight only five or ten minutes is part of the landing process and the most critical part of that only accounts for about thirty seconds.

22 posted on 07/08/2013 7:55:35 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: miss marmelstein

While this is a very sad story, why has it pushed the Egyptian craziness off the news? Because it makes Kerry & Obama look incompetent again?
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In the case of Fox, they were totally AWOL on the Egyptian Revolution during PrimeTime on the big day - July 3. They ran per- recorded Zimmerman segments all evening. So why would anyone be surprised that the SFO crash would dominate Fox News. It even pushed Zimmerman aside for a full day.

I’m sticking with FR. My Fox News time is down 10 db from a year ago. Boring, predictable and mostly commercials.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 7:56:31 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: Kenny Bunk

If the seawall is ramped too gently or too steeply, it would be more subject to erosion by wave action. It is probably optimized for erosion protection.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 8:01:50 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Ditto....All TV news coverage all day long on Saturday was an outright farce. All the inputs brought forward by pundits and news folks means zilch. The “Black “ boxes never lie and the testimony from the operating flight crew will carry major weight. I will stand back and let the Black boxes, Boeing, Asiana Airlines, NTSB & the operating flight crew gives us the correct factual information as to why and how this devastating incident occurred.


25 posted on 07/08/2013 8:02:12 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Kaslin
FTA: ...or the fact that gravity is always stronger over water than it is over land.

It's not????? My golf balls seem to think so!!! LOL!!

26 posted on 07/08/2013 8:15:15 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: oldtimer
AIRSPEED RUNWAY AIRSPEED RUNWAY are the fundamentals of landing an airplane .

I'm just guessing here but I bet that's how you got to be an "oldtimer", right???

27 posted on 07/08/2013 8:16:32 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting...hyperventilating hysteria...with gross inaccuracies and wild speculation? I wonder if Neil listens to his own broadcast. Neil, you are not on ANY news programs, because you act like an ass with the tact of a chainsaw. Some would even call it bullying or verbal bludgeoning. As for Shep? He suxes, period. Arrogant beyond and it shows through on screen. Only one on the Fox News Team more bent on hype and on screen hyperventilation is Whore-aldo.


28 posted on 07/08/2013 8:18:12 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: InterceptPoint

I flipped over to the insipid Fox & Friends this morning hoping to get an update. They were actually talking about soap operas while Egypt continued to burn. The modern day media is filled with idiots.


29 posted on 07/08/2013 8:24:32 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: reg45

My favorite was the reporting the the 777 decented at 1400 FEET PER SECOND !!!!! (that’s something like 84000 ft per min ... faster that the Space Shuttle)


30 posted on 07/08/2013 8:25:32 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Robe

I didn’t know that the 777 was capable of supersonic flight. The speed of sound is around 1100 feet per second.


31 posted on 07/08/2013 8:34:07 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Kaslin
Speaking of Kerry. Fox and Friends reported this morning that he suffered a seizure

Fatal, I can only hope.

32 posted on 07/08/2013 8:34:37 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: miss marmelstein
It was his wife.

This is truly sad. Her only mistake was marrying him in the first place.

33 posted on 07/08/2013 8:35:52 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ALPAPilot
Every time I hear the mainstream media report on a subject that I have considerable knowledge about, they always demonstrate their stupidity. As a 777 pilot, this is no exception.

I was involved in an industrial espionage event back in the mid-sixties.

When I read the account of the event in Time Magazine, I didn't recognize it.

34 posted on 07/08/2013 8:37:33 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: GladesGuru; All
Correction: His wife Teresa Heinz Kerry had the seizure

Secretary of State Kerry's wife in critical condition

35 posted on 07/08/2013 8:38:23 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yeah I just read it. They didn’t specify it on Fox and Friends and I assumed it was him


36 posted on 07/08/2013 8:40:36 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: reg45

He has also flown the particular air plane only 9 times according to reports


37 posted on 07/08/2013 8:43:58 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: TomGuy

Possibly the dumbest question I EVER heard a reporter ask someone was when Elvis died. A local Memphis reporter asked the paramedic working on Elvis on the way to the hospital, and I quote, “Did you want him to live”? The paramedic had that did-you-ACTUALLY-ask-me-that-question look on his face. That has stayed with me ever since.


38 posted on 07/08/2013 8:44:23 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: reg45

This is all fine and good but he has never flown in to the San Francisco airport with the particular type of airplane and according to reports that I heard the San Francisco airport is not easy to land in because of the location or something like that


39 posted on 07/08/2013 8:48:49 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: miss marmelstein

That was long after they talked about the crash. You missed it


40 posted on 07/08/2013 8:51:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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