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Jury asks for clarification on manslaughter charge in Zimmerman trial
Miami Herald ^ | 7-13-13

Posted on 07/13/2013 3:58:48 PM PDT by Wellington VII

SANFORD -- After more than 10 hours of deliberations over two days, jurors in the George Zimmerman trial asked the court for a clarification on the manslaughter jury instruction.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/13/3498415/jurors-resume-deliberations-in.html#storylink=cpy

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmermantrial
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1 posted on 07/13/2013 3:58:48 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: Wellington VII

Not a good sign.


2 posted on 07/13/2013 4:00:09 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: Wellington VII

He’s toast.


3 posted on 07/13/2013 4:01:56 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: Wellington VII

At least it seems to mean that a murder 2 conviction has been rejected.


4 posted on 07/13/2013 4:02:28 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Wellington VII
Not a good sign.

Hard to say. There may be one or two holdouts for a compromise while others are willing to acquit. It also gives the appearance that the Murder 2 charge has been disposed of ...
5 posted on 07/13/2013 4:02:43 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Wellington VII

Can’t stand to watch CNN’s coverage of trail.
And watching Fox’s Arthele Nevele is just as bad.

No place to go, except here.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:03 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Wellington VII
Manslaughter in Florida where a firearm is involved is a 30 year gig!!!

This is guy was railroaded and setup from the start. There was no way he was ever getting off for this.

Even if he's acquitted and he's won't be, the Feds will go after him for something and he'll have to hide in a hole the rest of his life anyway.

I don't know what happened that night but I do know that he was found guilty by most from the git go. Guilty until proven guilty!!!

7 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:38 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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doesn’t mean he’s toast...means they’re struggling to find any kind of guilt and just want to clarity.

....from personal experience while on two jury duties.


8 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:39 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: tennmountainman

NEVER trust a womink! NEVER!


9 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:55 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Tea Party, Constitution, patriot, DOMA, NRA , pro-life...can you hear me now big ears?)
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To: tennmountainman

Are the jurors done for the day? It is 7 PM there.


10 posted on 07/13/2013 4:05:16 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: Wellington VII

I think the judge hinted that the penalty was lighter for manslaughter than murder 2, but from what I understand it’s “up to 30 years” for MS of an adult, but mandatory 30 for MS of a minor.

The jury may think he’ll do less time with a MS charge, which is not necessarily the case.

Why in the world is THIS case so important? It’s as though the Powers That Be said, we need a white on black murder so we can roll out this big project we have, then when it turned out to be an hispanic on black murder, they said, let’s go with it anyway.


11 posted on 07/13/2013 4:05:40 PM PDT by DBrow
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I am not a lawyer and perhaps naive, but shouldn’t the answer to the jurors question be the actual statute that was was published into the public record?

I thought the jurors charge was to interpret the law as written and reach a verdict?


12 posted on 07/13/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by coldbluesteel
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To: tanknetter

I agree. I’ll be very surprised if they ever manage to actually reach a verdict.


13 posted on 07/13/2013 4:06:09 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits greatly!)
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To: Wellington VII

This means they are hung on even getting manslaughter. They are trying to clarify something to get a unanimous on manslaughter.

Barring that its a hung jury and a retrial.


14 posted on 07/13/2013 4:06:14 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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I suspect they want to split the baby on this, convicting him of something but not wanting to be lock him up. They may be trying to figure out if they have any control of sentencing.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:34 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: freedomrings69

No. They are still deliberating. Just hear they will break for dinner.
Don’t know if that means for the night or just a break for dinner.


16 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:47 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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What makes the manslaughter charge so onerous is the use of a firearm and the 10-20-life law. You might recall when she read the verdict sheet that there are several check-offs relating to whether or not a firearm was involved. That is so the judge can calculate the sentence properly.


17 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:47 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Kolath

Could also result in a hung jury.


18 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:49 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: prisoner6

I only trust them in bed..compromised

Even then I stay alert

Testy creatures but oh so delicious

Worth the risk


19 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wonkowasright

If they acquit on 2nd degree and hang on manslaughter they will not be able to overcharge in a retrial so it would be a straight fight over manslaughter and again self defense should be deciding.


20 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:48 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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